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"It’s even worse in other countries." It's not. I take you are comparing to western countries. If you have a valid visa and behave even remotely normal to the

by ssijak 2y ago

"It’s even worse in other countries." It's not. I take you are comparing to western countries. If you have a valid visa and behave even remotely normal to the border agents you will have no issues. Only in the USA some border agents have the attitude of "I'm gonna get you" or making you feel unwelcome for no reason. Hell, even in "authoritarian" countries like UAE or Quatar I never experience anything but pleasant interactions on the border.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago
> Hell, even in "authoritarian" countries like UAE or Quatar I never experience anything but pleasant interactions on the border. Wikipedia seems to indicate I couldn't go to the UAE because I'm transgender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_by_country_or_territory#LGBT-related_laws_by_country_or_territory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_by_country_or_ter...
- otikik 2y ago
  Unfortunately that table has already started changing for the worse on the particular case of the United States :( Be strong.
blindriver 2y ago
You are ignorant about how life is crossing into other countries. In the 1990s, my friend who is a white Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner with his family, and on his way back the Canadian border patrol asked him where he was going. He answered “Canada” instead of Toronto and based on that they detained him for hours and ripped apart his car. Just recently a woman from the UK was denied entry into Canada and because of that was denied entry back into the US and found herself in the same mess as the person in the article. This happens all the time, you just don’t hear about it until the news decides to make a thing about it.
- ssijak 2y ago
  "woman from the UK was denied entry into Canada and because of that was denied entry back into the US" You are proving my point, she was again detained by USA for 3 weeks when it could have been resolved much better and faster.
  - blindriver 2y ago
    Yes we agree then. Every country is strict at the border. That’s my point.
    - footy 2y ago
      there's a difference between sending someone back where they came from (what Canada did) and torturing them (what the US is doing, sleep deprivation is torture).
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dowager_dan99 2y ago
>> If you have a valid visa and behave even remotely normal to the border agents you will have no issues. This is the crux IMO: it should be an OR not an AND. Having to behave "remotely normal" where this is determined solely at the discretion of the TSA is impossible.
- account42 2y ago
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by ssijak 2y ago

01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y ago

> Hell, even in "authoritarian" countries like UAE or Quatar I never experience anything but pleasant interactions on the border. Wikipedia seems to indicate I couldn't go to the UAE because I'm transgender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_by_country_or_territory#LGBT-related_laws_by_country_or_territory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_by_country_or_ter...

otikik 2y ago
Unfortunately that table has already started changing for the worse on the particular case of the United States :( Be strong.

blindriver 2y ago

You are ignorant about how life is crossing into other countries. In the 1990s, my friend who is a white Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner with his family, and on his way back the Canadian border patrol asked him where he was going. He answered “Canada” instead of Toronto and based on that they detained him for hours and ripped apart his car. Just recently a woman from the UK was denied entry into Canada and because of that was denied entry back into the US and found herself in the same mess as the person in the article. This happens all the time, you just don’t hear about it until the news decides to make a thing about it.

ssijak 2y ago
"woman from the UK was denied entry into Canada and because of that was denied entry back into the US" You are proving my point, she was again detained by USA for 3 weeks when it could have been resolved much better and faster.
- blindriver 2y ago
  Yes we agree then. Every country is strict at the border. That’s my point.
  - footy 2y ago
    there's a difference between sending someone back where they came from (what Canada did) and torturing them (what the US is doing, sleep deprivation is torture).
  - deleted 2y ago
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dowager_dan99 2y ago

>> If you have a valid visa and behave even remotely normal to the border agents you will have no issues. This is the crux IMO: it should be an OR not an AND. Having to behave "remotely normal" where this is determined solely at the discretion of the TSA is impossible.

account42 2y ago
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