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Nothing is being done because it’s not an actual issue. No one is dying from being hit by delivery bikes. They are just annoying. Meanwhile elderly drivers reg

Nothing is being done because it’s not an actual issue. No one is dying from being hit by delivery bikes. They are just annoying. Meanwhile elderly drivers regularly have incidents that kill entire families and we shrug and say nothing can be done.

jollyllama 2y ago
If that's the case, then the comparable motor scooters should be deregulated as well.
- barnabee 2y ago
  They are noisy and pollute. Not the same at all.
  - jollyllama 2y ago
    I meant electric mopeds.
jjice 2y ago
It's not one or the other in my eyes - both can be a problem. When someone whips by me on the sidewalk on an e-bike or moped at 20+ MPH, that's a serious danger as well. I agree that I haven't heard of anyone specifically dying from this, but it's absolutely a public danger.
robertlagrant 2y ago
A friend's 8 year old kid had his arm broken by ripping, when it got caught in an on-pavement electric bike's wheel. 100% torque straight away. I assume you heard about it, given the confidence of your assertions. So I'm just reminding you.
brokenmachine 2y ago
From my very first google: "In the five-year period from 1 January 2016 to 31 December 2020, there were 14 deaths reported to an Australian State or Territory Coroner where an electric e-micromobility device, including e-bike, e-scooter and electronic self-balancing device, contributed to the death" "Seven of the 14 deaths were related to e-bikes); 7 deaths were in Queensland and 5 in Victoria (by jurisdiction of investigation); 6 deaths were in the age group of 35–44 years; 5 were females." <snip> "Last year the state recorded eight deaths related to personal mobility devices, including e-bikes and e-scooters, quadrupling the number from the previous year, with more than 3000 people presented to 26 emergency departments." https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/unaware-huge-warning-on-ebike-boom/news-story/b55614ce26f5234dcf7a18fa9de586d8 https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/unaware-huge-war... In addition, the reporting is lacking in this area. "Often, e-bike injuries are grouped with other road users: motorcycles, bicycles and e-scooter therefore making it difficult to track its use, correlates of it and any injury or harm from it."
- defrost 2y ago
  There's some serious road use education and rule adjustment called for; it's a perfect storm of young riders, on and off roadways and footpaths, speed, horsepower, and mixed traffic (cars, pedestrians, eVehicles with relatively high speeds).

jollyllama 2y ago

If that's the case, then the comparable motor scooters should be deregulated as well.

barnabee 2y ago
They are noisy and pollute. Not the same at all.
- jollyllama 2y ago
  I meant electric mopeds.

jjice 2y ago

It's not one or the other in my eyes - both can be a problem. When someone whips by me on the sidewalk on an e-bike or moped at 20+ MPH, that's a serious danger as well. I agree that I haven't heard of anyone specifically dying from this, but it's absolutely a public danger.

robertlagrant 2y ago

A friend's 8 year old kid had his arm broken by ripping, when it got caught in an on-pavement electric bike's wheel. 100% torque straight away. I assume you heard about it, given the confidence of your assertions. So I'm just reminding you.

brokenmachine 2y ago

From my very first google: "In the five-year period from 1 January 2016 to 31 December 2020, there were 14 deaths reported to an Australian State or Territory Coroner where an electric e-micromobility device, including e-bike, e-scooter and electronic self-balancing device, contributed to the death" "Seven of the 14 deaths were related to e-bikes); 7 deaths were in Queensland and 5 in Victoria (by jurisdiction of investigation); 6 deaths were in the age group of 35–44 years; 5 were females." <snip> "Last year the state recorded eight deaths related to personal mobility devices, including e-bikes and e-scooters, quadrupling the number from the previous year, with more than 3000 people presented to 26 emergency departments." https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/unaware-huge-warning-on-ebike-boom/news-story/b55614ce26f5234dcf7a18fa9de586d8 https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/unaware-huge-war... In addition, the reporting is lacking in this area. "Often, e-bike injuries are grouped with other road users: motorcycles, bicycles and e-scooter therefore making it difficult to track its use, correlates of it and any injury or harm from it."

defrost 2y ago
There's some serious road use education and rule adjustment called for; it's a perfect storm of young riders, on and off roadways and footpaths, speed, horsepower, and mixed traffic (cars, pedestrians, eVehicles with relatively high speeds).