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SpaceX offered to do it for free. Publicly.
by fooker 2y ago
SpaceX offered to do it for free. Publicly.
- verzali 2y agoWhen? Do you have a link? Because the most recent delay was down to SpaceX. Their new dragon capsule was not ready on time to collect them, so they had to shift and replan for an older one.
- exe34 2y ago"free". Elon Musk offers a lot of things for free, and then turns out you have to pay anyway.
- flanked-evergl 2y agoLike?
- eitland 2y agoFirst example that comes to mind is Starlinks for Ukraine.
- concordDance 2y agoI thought some of those were still free. Do you have information to the contrary? Edit: italicized
- mikeyouse 2y agoPer the Polish government, they’re paying $50M per year for Ukraines service. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy87vg38dnpo.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy87vg38dnpo.amp
- melodyogonna 2y agoif $50m per year enough for the Starlink services needed in Ukraine?
- whamlastxmas 2y agono - it's a tiny fraction of the actual cost. so it's not "free" but it's massively subsidized to the point of being nearly free when it's a country paying for it
- ta1243 2y agoIn a high-development high-capital low-marginal cost it's tricky to determine the "actual cost". The marginal cost is minimal. The opportunity cost is minimal too (not like the satellites over Ukraine could be providing connectivity for other congested areas).
- flanked-evergl 2y agoYou are going to have to do better than some tweet battle. AFAIU from Wikipedia with decent sources the service is free, but the terminal's not, and that is what Poland paid. Also, it's not like Ukraine or even Poland has to pay, the can pay if they want, they can also not pay if they want. It's entirely elective. They can stop using any time they want. I heard that Google has a Starlink replacement in the works that is super awesome and I also heard that while Europe has completely killed itself with regulation they are entirely willing to buy things made by China which has absolutely no regulation. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russian-Ukrainian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russian-Ukrain...
- exe34 2y ago> they can also not pay if they want. It's entirely elective. even if they pay, he can supply it if he wants, or he can cut them off if it threatens to inconvenience Russia.
- Denote6737 2y agoDoge
- flanked-evergl 2y agohow much is he being paid for doge?
- ta1243 2y agoBillions
- flanked-evergl 2y agoCite?
- exe34 2y agohe closed down all the government departments that had open cases on his contracts.
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- flanked-evergl 2y agoNot a citation.
- exe34 2y agoit's really great that people like you take online discussions so seriously - here's the citation: https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025.02.13_fact_sheet_re_musk_investigations.pdf https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025.02.... I hope you read it carefully and we can have some intelligent conversation about the contents.
- torben-friis 2y agoDidn’t he very publicly offer to fund fixing world hunger then ignored it when an NGO came up with an actual plan?
- flanked-evergl 2y agoHow much was he paid for fixing world hunger?
- jandrese 2y agoI assume you are referring to this: https://truthout.org/articles/musk-pledged-6b-to-solve-world-hunger-but-gave-it-to-his-own-foundation-instead/ https://truthout.org/articles/musk-pledged-6b-to-solve-world... As a response to this: https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/04/26/elon-musk-hunger/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/04/26/elon-musk-hunger/
- rpmisms 2y agoHe called them on some ridiculous claim that $10 billion could end world hunger. He said that if they could show him how, he'd donate the money. Spoiler alert, they could not show him how.
- exe34 2y agoback in reality, no, they said "address world hunger", not "solve". I know we are in a post-truth phase of the decline, but please, try do do your part.
- rpmisms 2y agoActually, they did use the word "solve", they just added "help" first. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/26/economy/musk-world-hunger-wfp-intl/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/26/economy/musk-world-hunger... Check the errata at the bottom.
- belter 2y agoYou are lying. "The Facts Behind the Delayed Return of U.S. Astronauts" - https://www.factcheck.org/2025/03/the-facts-behind-the-delayed-return-of-u-s-astronauts/ https://www.factcheck.org/2025/03/the-facts-behind-the-delay...
- fooker 2y agoI wonder if you have read through this article yourself?
- belter 2y agoYes. Did you? Since you are insisting, can you point to the part that supports your statement: "SpaceX offered to do it for free. Publicly." It will be kinder for you, to think you’re lying, than to suspect a deficit in judgment...
- fooker 2y ago"Wilmore said he had no reason to doubt Musk’s claims about an offer to bring them home earlier" "Ken Bowersox, NASA’s associate administrator for space operations, said, “I think there may have been some conversations that I wasn’t part of.” But he said the option to fly a separate mission to the space station to retrieve the astronauts was “ruled out pretty quickly.” First hand sources: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892617681796264436 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892617681796264436 https://www.youtube.com/live/rCiNtismqg8?si=M8ZfF79yK9pwYJ1o https://www.youtube.com/live/rCiNtismqg8?si=M8ZfF79yK9pwYJ1o
- belter 2y agoSo your demonstration they offered to do it and publicly, is two NASA administrators saying there is no record or conversation of such public offer, a tweet, post event, from a pathological liar, capable to even lie, about the death of his own child... https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/1dxlopw/elon_musk_casually_lying_about_something_no_one/?rdt=54955 https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/1dxlopw/elo... And an interview with the astronauts where no such offer is mentioned except by a Fox news presenter? Uhau, just uhau.... I trust an actual Astronaut and an actual Engineer in Aerospace Engineering, and the first first pilot of a US spacecraft who was not a US citizen https://x.com/Astro_Andreas/status/1892517170384392664 https://x.com/Astro_Andreas/status/1892517170384392664