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They did more so than they did as losers.

• lostlogin 2y ago
  It spent $2.3 trillion, lost 2,324 U.S. military and 3,917 contractors. And then there’s the hundred thousand afghan deaths. What did the US get? https://www.usip.org/publications/2022/11/afghanistan-was-loss-better-peace https://www.usip.org/publications/2022/11/afghanistan-was-lo...
  • kennysoona 2y ago
    > What did the US get? It improved the quality of life and security for the people their immeasurably positively. If the withdrawal had not happened, and better leadership was displayed, the would have been completely wiped out. What they were trying to get, was another ally in the region. They could have to, if it weren't for poor leadership.
    • lostlogin 2y ago
      I know some of the things they were tying to get, and I’m also not convinced it was as altruistic as that. But I’m not talking about goals. What was achieved? It isn’t safer and the US hasn’t made an ally. Those things have not been achieved. If those were the aims, the US lost and the Teliban won.
      • kennysoona 2y ago
        > Those things have not been achieved. If those were the aims, the US lost and the Teliban won. That's one way to look at it sure. From a purely force against force perspective though, they didn't come anywhere close to losing.
        • lostlogin 2y ago
          > From a purely force against force perspective though, they didn't come anywhere close to losing Yes, I agree. The US saw this as a military problem, but that was only part of it. Winning a particular ground battle, capturing a town etc was only part of what was needed.