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A lot of things, I will just cite one - "FSD is largely delivered". Really ? Can you tell us, where Full-Self Driving is really fully self-driving ? Like being

A lot of things, I will just cite one - "FSD is largely delivered". Really ? Can you tell us, where Full-Self Driving is really fully self-driving ? Like being able to summon your car from Los Angeles to New York, like Elon claimed one will be able to do in 2017 ! Tesla sold millions of cars that were supposedly going to become Robotaxis with a simple software update, somewhere in 2019. SIX YEARS AGO. Tesla even showed screenshots of a ride-sharing app. SIX YEARS AGO. Now it's obvious to anyone, that those cars will never become Robotaxis, as Tesla pivots to trying to fake a Roboataxi service this year, with remote operators. But the greatest con of course, was towards investors. Of course nobody is complaining now, since the stock is still a meme stock. Just wait a bit more...

dzhiurgis 2y ago
You can buy supervised FSD right now. It works extremely well to the point testers are bored out of their minds - their channels became worthless since it barely makes any mistakes. It's overpriced and not available where I live, but I'd love one. It doesn't do everything under the sun as promised, but I'd rather drive less than more. The basic 10 year old Autopilot is already huge help. I'd say it's about 80% delivered. Far from a con.
- TheAlchemist 2y ago
  Yeah, that's the problem with a real Full Self Driving. It's either 100%, or it's not. 80% doesn't make the cut. Do you seriously believe the company was valued at >1T$ because investors believed that an "FSD 80% delivered" is enough ? Tesla and Elon claimed ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO, that the car will drive itself from Los Angeles to New York. Just think how insane this is, even today. And then look up the state of their technology 10 years ago. Of course self driving will be solved one day. Probably not by Tesla. But it doesn't matter - they were selling this stuff for almost 10 years already, knowing perfectly well it doesn't work. But hey, next version will blow your mind !
  - dzhiurgis 2y ago
    Every single company claimed something and haven’t delivered. Why single out one that actually delivered most of claims? I’m tine if you call it “some self driving”, I don’t care. I’m not going to put my car as a taxi, that’s stupid.

dzhiurgis 2y ago

You can buy supervised FSD right now. It works extremely well to the point testers are bored out of their minds - their channels became worthless since it barely makes any mistakes. It's overpriced and not available where I live, but I'd love one. It doesn't do everything under the sun as promised, but I'd rather drive less than more. The basic 10 year old Autopilot is already huge help. I'd say it's about 80% delivered. Far from a con.

TheAlchemist 2y ago
Yeah, that's the problem with a real Full Self Driving. It's either 100%, or it's not. 80% doesn't make the cut. Do you seriously believe the company was valued at >1T$ because investors believed that an "FSD 80% delivered" is enough ? Tesla and Elon claimed ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO, that the car will drive itself from Los Angeles to New York. Just think how insane this is, even today. And then look up the state of their technology 10 years ago. Of course self driving will be solved one day. Probably not by Tesla. But it doesn't matter - they were selling this stuff for almost 10 years already, knowing perfectly well it doesn't work. But hey, next version will blow your mind !
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  Every single company claimed something and haven’t delivered. Why single out one that actually delivered most of claims? I’m tine if you call it “some self driving”, I don’t care. I’m not going to put my car as a taxi, that’s stupid.