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'Danish Viking blood is boiling.' Danes and other Europeans boycott US goods

15 points by KnuthIsGod 2y ago

oldpersonintx 2y ago
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janmarsal 2y ago
why can't we boycott china instead they have higher tariffs and support russia even more than usa
- ben_w 2y ago
  China isn't trying to buy Greenland — currently part of Denmark — and refusing to rule out military force when the inevitable answer of "no" is given.
  - mytailorisrich 2y ago
    The US aren't trying to buy Greenland as they haven't made any offers (as far as we know). They did make an actual offer in 1946, though, and that apparently didn't sour relations... Trump's way seems to involve a lot of bluster so seeing through it, what are they trying to do, really? Apparently there has been a surge in pro-independence parties in the latest elections in Greenland, perhaps that is a clue. A side note is that Denmark hasn't been very strategic. They let Greenland leave the EC/EU, they let them self-govern... this is a path to losing it altogether.
    - esseph 2y ago
      There is a possible play being put together. • China -> Taiwan (eventually) • Russia -> Ukraine • US -> Greenland I keeping hearing this from DC circles.
    - watwut 2y ago
      Trump and conservatives have a cycle of: First saying they want to do the bad thing. People listen and take it seriously. Then "center" come and try to gaslight and accuse everyone of paranoia. Then conservatives and Trump do the bad thing. Then center shows Pikachu face "who could have know" and proceed to euphemism about what just happened, trying to excuse and explain it away.
  - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
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    - ben_w 2y ago
      > A part of Denmark is quite a euphemism for Denmark subjugating a people that want to be independent, that Denmark has no right to. 1) The locals have just as vehemently rejected being part of the USA. 2) It's not a euphemism, that's just how "country" works as a concept in international law. See also: "Catalonia is part of Spain", "Navajo Nation is part of the USA", and "Canada became a country on July 1st, 1867"
      - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
        > The locals have just as vehemently rejected being part of the USA. My comment did not mention the US. The key point is that Greenlanders don’t want to be slaves to Denmark. It’s a euphemism because your comment - and Danes and the EU in general - don’t seem to recognize that colonialism is alive and well in Denmark’s relationship with Greenland. That’s why virtually all the political parties in Greenland support independence. As for this euphemism: > China isn't trying to buy Greenland This is just a euphemism to justify the lack of any concern over European economic ties with the authoritarian dictatorship that rules China. If Europe wants to divorce from the US due to its principles, they should first have no business ties with China whatsoever. This thing about Greenland is not even remotely a justification for continued support of the CCP.
        twixfel 2y ago
        It’s the US that is divorcing from Europe, not the other way around. The US has seemingly decided to betray Western civilisation and become just another barbaric shithole like Russia and Iran.
        timeon 2y ago
        > My comment did not mention the US. So are you hijacking discussion? Because topic is on Denmark-USA relation.
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
From the article: > It shocked him to realize that he now perceives the United States as a greater threat than Iran. Weird how Europeans / Canadians / extremist Americans don’t seem to reflect on these types of sentiments, of preferring Iran and China over the US, and realize that maybe, just maybe - they are not thinking clearly. These are literally authoritarian dictatorships, while the US is a democracy that supports things like free speech and freedom of religion. These are values that are more strongly supported in America than anywhere else, and are the same types of values that the EU and Canada should be supporting.
- watwut 2y ago
  Cause Iran is objectively less of a threat to Canada. They are threat in their region. USA is actively trying to harm Canada and Europe. Consistently talks about annexing Canada, throws around fake accusations to make American populace cool with it. It is teaming up with Russia which is expanding and direct threat. ------ USA has crumbling democracy and failing rule of law. It's free speech is currently getting huge hits with Trump literally trying to destroy companies and individuals that dared to go against him. No country is perfect in that regard, but USA is definitely not a beacon of it anymore.
- frank20022 2y ago
  Definitely we should not support the US free speech where one can say any harmful shit and lie deliberately, but can't show tits because tits are "obscene". You can keep those values, we are fine – thanks. And definitely an allied country with a massive military — with whom you share a lot of intelligence — that turns on you out of the whim of one single crazy guy is more of a threat than a poor long term enemy country pretty much isolated from international trade. Far more.
- twixfel 2y ago
  The US is throwing Europe and Ukraine under the bus to yet again try for a ridiculous reset with Russia and get some sort of Yalta 2.0. Just a few weeks ago your vice president came to Munich to argue that we need to work more with our fascists and embrace American style free speech and legalise the Hitler salute. No, the US really is a far bigger threat to Western civilisation than China or Iran. You have betrayed us all.
pastyboy 2y ago
Greenlanders could be offered 10 million dollars each, the protectorate of the US and laws does not sound so bad to me, I would take it, currently living in a dystopian socialist Labour nightmare, the UK (could be worse, we could still be in the EU).
defrost 2y ago
Mineral extraction from Greenland isn't a short term payoff, it's a long term multi decadal slog, once climate changes hits harder, ice retreats, seasons lengthen, geophysical surveys drape the landscape, surface geochem samples, drilling tests, and infill drilling proves prospects then maybe new grounds can raise capital to open mines and processing. In the more immediate short term (of a US Presidental term): Trump looks to The Democratic Republic of the Congo for potential deal on rare earth minerals https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/trump-drc-cobalt-mining-rare-earth-minerals-china/105063278 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/trump-drc-cobalt-mini... The DRC are rich mineral grounds and ground zero for an unspoken proxy mineral battle during the Cold War when the US sourced uranium for the bulk of its post WWII weapons programme from the region. Now it's primed for another rare earth proxy battle between the US and the already established Chinese foofhold there.

15 points by KnuthIsGod 2y ago

oldpersonintx 2y ago

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janmarsal 2y ago

why can't we boycott china instead they have higher tariffs and support russia even more than usa

ben_w 2y ago
China isn't trying to buy Greenland — currently part of Denmark — and refusing to rule out military force when the inevitable answer of "no" is given.
- mytailorisrich 2y ago
  The US aren't trying to buy Greenland as they haven't made any offers (as far as we know). They did make an actual offer in 1946, though, and that apparently didn't sour relations... Trump's way seems to involve a lot of bluster so seeing through it, what are they trying to do, really? Apparently there has been a surge in pro-independence parties in the latest elections in Greenland, perhaps that is a clue. A side note is that Denmark hasn't been very strategic. They let Greenland leave the EC/EU, they let them self-govern... this is a path to losing it altogether.
  - esseph 2y ago
    There is a possible play being put together. • China -> Taiwan (eventually) • Russia -> Ukraine • US -> Greenland I keeping hearing this from DC circles.
  - watwut 2y ago
    Trump and conservatives have a cycle of: First saying they want to do the bad thing. People listen and take it seriously. Then "center" come and try to gaslight and accuse everyone of paranoia. Then conservatives and Trump do the bad thing. Then center shows Pikachu face "who could have know" and proceed to euphemism about what just happened, trying to excuse and explain it away.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
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  - ben_w 2y ago
    > A part of Denmark is quite a euphemism for Denmark subjugating a people that want to be independent, that Denmark has no right to. 1) The locals have just as vehemently rejected being part of the USA. 2) It's not a euphemism, that's just how "country" works as a concept in international law. See also: "Catalonia is part of Spain", "Navajo Nation is part of the USA", and "Canada became a country on July 1st, 1867"
    - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
      > The locals have just as vehemently rejected being part of the USA. My comment did not mention the US. The key point is that Greenlanders don’t want to be slaves to Denmark. It’s a euphemism because your comment - and Danes and the EU in general - don’t seem to recognize that colonialism is alive and well in Denmark’s relationship with Greenland. That’s why virtually all the political parties in Greenland support independence. As for this euphemism: > China isn't trying to buy Greenland This is just a euphemism to justify the lack of any concern over European economic ties with the authoritarian dictatorship that rules China. If Europe wants to divorce from the US due to its principles, they should first have no business ties with China whatsoever. This thing about Greenland is not even remotely a justification for continued support of the CCP.
      - twixfel 2y ago
        It’s the US that is divorcing from Europe, not the other way around. The US has seemingly decided to betray Western civilisation and become just another barbaric shithole like Russia and Iran.
      - timeon 2y ago
        > My comment did not mention the US. So are you hijacking discussion? Because topic is on Denmark-USA relation.

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

From the article: > It shocked him to realize that he now perceives the United States as a greater threat than Iran. Weird how Europeans / Canadians / extremist Americans don’t seem to reflect on these types of sentiments, of preferring Iran and China over the US, and realize that maybe, just maybe - they are not thinking clearly. These are literally authoritarian dictatorships, while the US is a democracy that supports things like free speech and freedom of religion. These are values that are more strongly supported in America than anywhere else, and are the same types of values that the EU and Canada should be supporting.

watwut 2y ago
Cause Iran is objectively less of a threat to Canada. They are threat in their region. USA is actively trying to harm Canada and Europe. Consistently talks about annexing Canada, throws around fake accusations to make American populace cool with it. It is teaming up with Russia which is expanding and direct threat. ------ USA has crumbling democracy and failing rule of law. It's free speech is currently getting huge hits with Trump literally trying to destroy companies and individuals that dared to go against him. No country is perfect in that regard, but USA is definitely not a beacon of it anymore.
frank20022 2y ago
Definitely we should not support the US free speech where one can say any harmful shit and lie deliberately, but can't show tits because tits are "obscene". You can keep those values, we are fine – thanks. And definitely an allied country with a massive military — with whom you share a lot of intelligence — that turns on you out of the whim of one single crazy guy is more of a threat than a poor long term enemy country pretty much isolated from international trade. Far more.
twixfel 2y ago
The US is throwing Europe and Ukraine under the bus to yet again try for a ridiculous reset with Russia and get some sort of Yalta 2.0. Just a few weeks ago your vice president came to Munich to argue that we need to work more with our fascists and embrace American style free speech and legalise the Hitler salute. No, the US really is a far bigger threat to Western civilisation than China or Iran. You have betrayed us all.

pastyboy 2y ago

Greenlanders could be offered 10 million dollars each, the protectorate of the US and laws does not sound so bad to me, I would take it, currently living in a dystopian socialist Labour nightmare, the UK (could be worse, we could still be in the EU).

defrost 2y ago

Mineral extraction from Greenland isn't a short term payoff, it's a long term multi decadal slog, once climate changes hits harder, ice retreats, seasons lengthen, geophysical surveys drape the landscape, surface geochem samples, drilling tests, and infill drilling proves prospects then maybe new grounds can raise capital to open mines and processing. In the more immediate short term (of a US Presidental term): Trump looks to The Democratic Republic of the Congo for potential deal on rare earth minerals https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/trump-drc-cobalt-mining-rare-earth-minerals-china/105063278 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/trump-drc-cobalt-mini... The DRC are rich mineral grounds and ground zero for an unspoken proxy mineral battle during the Cold War when the US sourced uranium for the bulk of its post WWII weapons programme from the region. Now it's primed for another rare earth proxy battle between the US and the already established Chinese foofhold there.