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I'm going ahead and deciding that astronaut is no longer the awesome job I thought it was when I was younger. I'm good on that.

OccamsMirror 2y ago
You know in your heart that it still is.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  coolest thing you can do as human and nothing comes even remotely close
szundi 2y ago
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tonyhart7 2y ago
maybe not on your lifetime but at the speed of current progress, maybe your son or grandchildren can become space settler to terraform mars in the next generation (that literally coolest thing ever)
- rob74 2y ago
  Becoming a space settler on Mars: cool Contributing to bringing Earth to a state where it will have to be "terraformed" itself: not so cool
  - tonyhart7 2y ago
    earth is cool but people are not
- deleted 2y ago
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- ohgr 2y ago
  We are more likely end up with moon nazis at this rate.
  - iancmceachern 2y ago
    Or the Mars envisioned in Total Recall
- tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
  It's the coolest thing, but it will be frontier work. It won't be a walk in the park, almost certainly neither fun nor safe, and possibly a one-way ticket for a long time. (Even without the "corp-owned slave town" dystopia scenario that's also a possibility.)
  - tonyhart7 2y ago
    "corp-owned slave town" in space human slave is literally most expensive labor you can choose, automatons is the way
    - bravetraveler 2y ago
      Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft... and the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor. - Werner von Braun Thanks to delayed effects of radiation and such, people are the automatons. Extremely commodity and robust. Humanity, (or to be fair, safety) in my work is cooler, actually. Nothing beats my bed! The worst political nonsense I get caught in means a phone call. Not an extended stay with potential life-lasting or shortening effects. Rad is different for everyone :) Captain Paperclip would have encouraged the negative path, yes.
      - tonyhart7 2y ago
        oh yes lets send a spaceship that full of leading edge tech with unskilled human labor, sounds about right maybe you must see real world first, drinkable water and plant is literally of the most rare thing in the universe surpassing mineral and metal, one of the most abundant things in space
        bravetraveler 2y ago
        The unskilled labor would be the parents, but I can tell the metaphor is lost. Not sure why I bother explaining that.
        2y ago
adastra22 2y ago
I don’t understand this take? They got to spend the better part of a year doing what they love. Sounds pretty kick-ass to me.
- rdtsc 2y ago
  We’ll see if they fly again or they are done with space for good. There is no way they’ll publicly complain or acknowledge issues. as it will look unprofessional, but actions will tell.
  - adastra22 2y ago
    This was likely their last mission to start with. They’re already past prime and nearing retirement (of official astronaut duties, at least).
    - rdtsc 2y ago
      I guess until they retire and leave NASA we may never know. Otherwise it would be quite unprofessional of them to criticize their time there or air out the dirty laundry. The point is, they are expected to say they enjoyed every minute of it in front of the camera. And if they really didn’t we may not hear about it.
    - russdill 2y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Pettit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Pettit
  - tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
    Wasn't this (or rather, the original short mission) expected to likely be the last mission for them anyways, due to age? I really hope they'll at some point clearly say either "well, of course we missed our families, but really, getting such an opportunity was AWESOME and Boeing's misfortune was a huge lucky event for us" or "Being up there is awesome, but quite honestly, having to do it unexpectedly really sucked". And I don't think that it is the slightest bit unprofessional to have feelings about where you spent a year of your life, or to talk about those feelings.
mullingitover 2y ago
I got over it when I learned about the crazy nausea from your inner ears giving your brain conflicting information. Couple that with your body nonstop wasting away in zero gravity, plus the radiation damage. It’s like a never ending hangover, but worse.
Animats 2y ago
Today, being a NASA astronaut is kind of a dud job. There are about 50 active astronauts at the moment, and not very many flights for them. Peak was around 150, in the Shuttle era. With 135 Shuttle flights, with up to eight people aboard, most of them got a chance to go up, usually more than once. Not today. Another astronaut comments on what the Crew-9 people can expect: "The returning astronauts will "struggle to walk, get dizzy easily, and have bad eyesight", because the "build-up of fluid changes the shape of their eyeballs, and weakens their vision". They may need glasses for the rest of their lives." Living without gravity seems to be harder on some than others. Valery Polyakov spent 435 days in space, longer than anyone else. He apparently didn't suffer much in the way of after-effects, had a good post-flight career, and died at age 80.
- indoordin0saur 2y ago
  Flights to Mars in about 5 years though! I can't imagine how amazing it would be to be one of the first geologists getting out on foot and exploring those canyons, mountains, lava tubes and caves...
  - ta1243 2y ago
    Not without spin gravity. Imagine 5 years of weightlessness then having to get out on foot.
    - pavon 2y ago
      Travel time to Mars is 3-9 months depending on how fast you travel, probably still to early to know where a Space X Starship trip would fall in that range. The 5 years is referencing Musk's latest optimistic prediction for when the first manned flight would occur. Still, re-adapting to gravity on arrival will be an issue.
      - timewizard 2y ago
        > is 3-9 months depending on how fast you travel That particular launch window only occurs once every two years. The Earth and Mars rotate around the Sun at different rates. During some periods Mars is on the other side of the Sun and essentially unreachable with our current level of delta-v. > latest optimistic prediction Will that be before or after fully self driving cars? Or electric semis? That drive themselves in road trains? Will those astronauts have neuralink chips in their heads? > re-adapting to gravity on arrival will be an issue. It's 1/3 gravity. Then again, you're on a ship with no free return abort trajectory available, I'd worry more about medical emergencies, crew temperament, and actual crimes being committed.

OccamsMirror 2y ago

You know in your heart that it still is.

bdangubic 2y ago
coolest thing you can do as human and nothing comes even remotely close

szundi 2y ago

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tonyhart7 2y ago

maybe not on your lifetime but at the speed of current progress, maybe your son or grandchildren can become space settler to terraform mars in the next generation (that literally coolest thing ever)

rob74 2y ago
Becoming a space settler on Mars: cool Contributing to bringing Earth to a state where it will have to be "terraformed" itself: not so cool
- tonyhart7 2y ago
  earth is cool but people are not
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ohgr 2y ago
We are more likely end up with moon nazis at this rate.
- iancmceachern 2y ago
  Or the Mars envisioned in Total Recall
tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
It's the coolest thing, but it will be frontier work. It won't be a walk in the park, almost certainly neither fun nor safe, and possibly a one-way ticket for a long time. (Even without the "corp-owned slave town" dystopia scenario that's also a possibility.)
- tonyhart7 2y ago
  "corp-owned slave town" in space human slave is literally most expensive labor you can choose, automatons is the way
  - bravetraveler 2y ago
    Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft... and the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor. - Werner von Braun Thanks to delayed effects of radiation and such, people are the automatons. Extremely commodity and robust. Humanity, (or to be fair, safety) in my work is cooler, actually. Nothing beats my bed! The worst political nonsense I get caught in means a phone call. Not an extended stay with potential life-lasting or shortening effects. Rad is different for everyone :) Captain Paperclip would have encouraged the negative path, yes.
    - tonyhart7 2y ago
      oh yes lets send a spaceship that full of leading edge tech with unskilled human labor, sounds about right maybe you must see real world first, drinkable water and plant is literally of the most rare thing in the universe surpassing mineral and metal, one of the most abundant things in space
      - bravetraveler 2y ago
        The unskilled labor would be the parents, but I can tell the metaphor is lost. Not sure why I bother explaining that.
        2y ago

adastra22 2y ago

I don’t understand this take? They got to spend the better part of a year doing what they love. Sounds pretty kick-ass to me.

rdtsc 2y ago
We’ll see if they fly again or they are done with space for good. There is no way they’ll publicly complain or acknowledge issues. as it will look unprofessional, but actions will tell.
- adastra22 2y ago
  This was likely their last mission to start with. They’re already past prime and nearing retirement (of official astronaut duties, at least).
  - rdtsc 2y ago
    I guess until they retire and leave NASA we may never know. Otherwise it would be quite unprofessional of them to criticize their time there or air out the dirty laundry. The point is, they are expected to say they enjoyed every minute of it in front of the camera. And if they really didn’t we may not hear about it.
  - russdill 2y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Pettit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Pettit
- tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
  Wasn't this (or rather, the original short mission) expected to likely be the last mission for them anyways, due to age? I really hope they'll at some point clearly say either "well, of course we missed our families, but really, getting such an opportunity was AWESOME and Boeing's misfortune was a huge lucky event for us" or "Being up there is awesome, but quite honestly, having to do it unexpectedly really sucked". And I don't think that it is the slightest bit unprofessional to have feelings about where you spent a year of your life, or to talk about those feelings.

mullingitover 2y ago

I got over it when I learned about the crazy nausea from your inner ears giving your brain conflicting information. Couple that with your body nonstop wasting away in zero gravity, plus the radiation damage. It’s like a never ending hangover, but worse.

Animats 2y ago

Today, being a NASA astronaut is kind of a dud job. There are about 50 active astronauts at the moment, and not very many flights for them. Peak was around 150, in the Shuttle era. With 135 Shuttle flights, with up to eight people aboard, most of them got a chance to go up, usually more than once. Not today. Another astronaut comments on what the Crew-9 people can expect: "The returning astronauts will "struggle to walk, get dizzy easily, and have bad eyesight", because the "build-up of fluid changes the shape of their eyeballs, and weakens their vision". They may need glasses for the rest of their lives." Living without gravity seems to be harder on some than others. Valery Polyakov spent 435 days in space, longer than anyone else. He apparently didn't suffer much in the way of after-effects, had a good post-flight career, and died at age 80.

indoordin0saur 2y ago
Flights to Mars in about 5 years though! I can't imagine how amazing it would be to be one of the first geologists getting out on foot and exploring those canyons, mountains, lava tubes and caves...
- ta1243 2y ago
  Not without spin gravity. Imagine 5 years of weightlessness then having to get out on foot.
  - pavon 2y ago
    Travel time to Mars is 3-9 months depending on how fast you travel, probably still to early to know where a Space X Starship trip would fall in that range. The 5 years is referencing Musk's latest optimistic prediction for when the first manned flight would occur. Still, re-adapting to gravity on arrival will be an issue.
    - timewizard 2y ago
      > is 3-9 months depending on how fast you travel That particular launch window only occurs once every two years. The Earth and Mars rotate around the Sun at different rates. During some periods Mars is on the other side of the Sun and essentially unreachable with our current level of delta-v. > latest optimistic prediction Will that be before or after fully self driving cars? Or electric semis? That drive themselves in road trains? Will those astronauts have neuralink chips in their heads? > re-adapting to gravity on arrival will be an issue. It's 1/3 gravity. Then again, you're on a ship with no free return abort trajectory available, I'd worry more about medical emergencies, crew temperament, and actual crimes being committed.