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What constitutes an honest backdated post? How would they be able to verify it?

tough 2y ago
they could fetch the post reference on x.com with the real date, and store a zkProof of its existance, relying the verfiability-trust then to x not messing with them
- krainboltgreene 2y ago
  You going to donate your CPU for that? Only about a billion or ten tweets.
  - dietr1ch 2y ago
    You don't need to migrate everything, just getting the ones from users that migrated from twitter would help a lot seeding Bluesky profiles. You can also link Twitter to Bluesky with either OAuth, or a Twitter post with a Bluesky challenge to prove you have control of the account.
    - pimlottc 2y ago
      That sounds like a lot of manual work, as I don’t expect Twitter to offer an API for departing users…
      - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
        Not an API but if you're a departing user: https://www.theverge.com/23453703/twitter-archive-download-how-to-tweets https://www.theverge.com/23453703/twitter-archive-download-h.... Bottom line: it's possible to download all account history with tweets in JSON format with dates, and more.
        pimlottc 2y ago
        Sure, but now you're back to trust. Unless it's signed, which it doesn't sound like it is, anyone could fabricate their Twitter post history.
- celticninja 2y ago
  Open a PR
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Or use the Wayback Machine? You can trust its captures, courts do. Queue archiving jobs per handle, backfill from the archives after the initial archiving request has completed. https://katharinabrunner.de/2024/02/archiving-websites-the-internet-archives-save-page-now-spn-api/ https://katharinabrunner.de/2024/02/archiving-websites-the-i... https://x.com/paulmcgorrery/status/1178561480385421312 https://x.com/paulmcgorrery/status/1178561480385421312 (Dyno Nobel Inc v Orica Explosives Technology Pty Ltd (no 2) [2019] FCA 1552) https://www.michbar.org/journal/Details/Old-websites-seldom-die-using-the-Wayback-Machine-in-litigation?ArticleID=4698 https://www.michbar.org/journal/Details/Old-websites-seldom-... https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/insights/legal/b/thought-leadership/posts/internet-archive-wayback-machine-helps-lawyers-go-back-in-time-to-strengthen-cases https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/insights/legal/b/though...
- arcticbull 2y ago
  Wouldn't that require a very expensive API contract that X would be quite uninterested in signing?
- pjc50 2y ago
  > they could fetch the post reference on x.com with the real date Twitter posts are only available to authenticated users, and the API is really quite expensive now - that was one of the many reasons people have wanted to move off it!

they could fetch the post reference on x.com with the real date, and store a zkProof of its existance, relying the verfiability-trust then to x not messing with them

krainboltgreene 2y ago
You going to donate your CPU for that? Only about a billion or ten tweets.
- dietr1ch 2y ago
  You don't need to migrate everything, just getting the ones from users that migrated from twitter would help a lot seeding Bluesky profiles. You can also link Twitter to Bluesky with either OAuth, or a Twitter post with a Bluesky challenge to prove you have control of the account.
  - pimlottc 2y ago
    That sounds like a lot of manual work, as I don’t expect Twitter to offer an API for departing users…
    - rad_gruchalski 2y ago
      Not an API but if you're a departing user: https://www.theverge.com/23453703/twitter-archive-download-how-to-tweets https://www.theverge.com/23453703/twitter-archive-download-h.... Bottom line: it's possible to download all account history with tweets in JSON format with dates, and more.
      - pimlottc 2y ago
        Sure, but now you're back to trust. Unless it's signed, which it doesn't sound like it is, anyone could fabricate their Twitter post history.
celticninja 2y ago
Open a PR
toomuchtodo 2y ago
Or use the Wayback Machine? You can trust its captures, courts do. Queue archiving jobs per handle, backfill from the archives after the initial archiving request has completed. https://katharinabrunner.de/2024/02/archiving-websites-the-internet-archives-save-page-now-spn-api/ https://katharinabrunner.de/2024/02/archiving-websites-the-i... https://x.com/paulmcgorrery/status/1178561480385421312 https://x.com/paulmcgorrery/status/1178561480385421312 (Dyno Nobel Inc v Orica Explosives Technology Pty Ltd (no 2) [2019] FCA 1552) https://www.michbar.org/journal/Details/Old-websites-seldom-die-using-the-Wayback-Machine-in-litigation?ArticleID=4698 https://www.michbar.org/journal/Details/Old-websites-seldom-... https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/insights/legal/b/thought-leadership/posts/internet-archive-wayback-machine-helps-lawyers-go-back-in-time-to-strengthen-cases https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/insights/legal/b/though...
arcticbull 2y ago
Wouldn't that require a very expensive API contract that X would be quite uninterested in signing?
pjc50 2y ago
> they could fetch the post reference on x.com with the real date Twitter posts are only available to authenticated users, and the API is really quite expensive now - that was one of the many reasons people have wanted to move off it!