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no we didn’t. we voted to keep illegal immigrants out. literally nobody has a problem with immigrants using legal methods.

ben_w 2y ago
> literally Court order, H1B, still deported: https://www.newsweek.com/medical-doctor-deported-us-despite-valid-visa-court-order-lawyer-2045642 https://www.newsweek.com/medical-doctor-deported-us-despite-...
- tekknik 2y ago
  I don’t see a problem there, they take jobs from americans and the current companies abusing the H1B process are doing so not to gain rare knowledge or experience but to abuse people. So i’m totally onboard. H1B should be for people like Musk, not randos that happen to know a few things.
  - ben_w 2y ago
    You don't see a problem with a legal migrant being deported despite a court order saying "don't do that"? > H1B should be for people like Musk, not randos that happen to know a few things. QED you yourself falsify your own prior statement, "literally nobody has a problem with immigrants using legal methods". This is a person using a legal method. You have a problem with that.
    - tekknik 2y ago
      i have a problem with abuse of a system yes. I also have a problem with illegal immigrants. do you think trying to confuse and argue the point is going to change my or anybody’s mind? america first, what’s hard to understand there?
      - soco 2y ago
        I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, that america first damn logic or real-life contrarian examples.
      - ben_w 2y ago
        You're the one who is confused. I know you're "america first", that was obvious. You specifically said something which is false: "literally nobody has a problem with immigrants using legal methods". This is false because your own statements in these very comments are continuing to demonstrate that you, personally, have a problem with immigrants using legal methods. Abuse of the legal system? That would be a SLAPP, which is something your own example of Elon Musk has done, not "applying for and being granted a visa": https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/03/25/musk-x-lawsuit-slapp-center-digital-hate/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/03/25/musk-x-...
anigbrowl 2y ago
Questionable. There are lots of people opposed to legal immigration, if you are not aware of this now you soon will be. https://www.wmur.com/article/german-national-fabian-schmidt-nashua-ice-31725/64212019 https://www.wmur.com/article/german-national-fabian-schmidt-...
- tekknik 2y ago
  you’ve cherry picked an example, and don’t really know what they’ve done a you don’t have a security clearance. i’ll wait to reserve judgement
  - anigbrowl 2y ago
    Historically the burden of proof in the legal system is on the authorities, not the accused. There's a name for countries where only people with security clearances are allowed to form opinions.
  - anigbrowl 2y ago
    Here's another example: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-det...

ben_w 2y ago

> literally Court order, H1B, still deported: https://www.newsweek.com/medical-doctor-deported-us-despite-valid-visa-court-order-lawyer-2045642 https://www.newsweek.com/medical-doctor-deported-us-despite-...

tekknik 2y ago
I don’t see a problem there, they take jobs from americans and the current companies abusing the H1B process are doing so not to gain rare knowledge or experience but to abuse people. So i’m totally onboard. H1B should be for people like Musk, not randos that happen to know a few things.
- ben_w 2y ago
  You don't see a problem with a legal migrant being deported despite a court order saying "don't do that"? > H1B should be for people like Musk, not randos that happen to know a few things. QED you yourself falsify your own prior statement, "literally nobody has a problem with immigrants using legal methods". This is a person using a legal method. You have a problem with that.
  - tekknik 2y ago
    i have a problem with abuse of a system yes. I also have a problem with illegal immigrants. do you think trying to confuse and argue the point is going to change my or anybody’s mind? america first, what’s hard to understand there?
    - soco 2y ago
      I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, that america first damn logic or real-life contrarian examples.
    - ben_w 2y ago
      You're the one who is confused. I know you're "america first", that was obvious. You specifically said something which is false: "literally nobody has a problem with immigrants using legal methods". This is false because your own statements in these very comments are continuing to demonstrate that you, personally, have a problem with immigrants using legal methods. Abuse of the legal system? That would be a SLAPP, which is something your own example of Elon Musk has done, not "applying for and being granted a visa": https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/03/25/musk-x-lawsuit-slapp-center-digital-hate/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/03/25/musk-x-...

anigbrowl 2y ago

Questionable. There are lots of people opposed to legal immigration, if you are not aware of this now you soon will be. https://www.wmur.com/article/german-national-fabian-schmidt-nashua-ice-31725/64212019 https://www.wmur.com/article/german-national-fabian-schmidt-...

tekknik 2y ago
you’ve cherry picked an example, and don’t really know what they’ve done a you don’t have a security clearance. i’ll wait to reserve judgement
- anigbrowl 2y ago
  Historically the burden of proof in the legal system is on the authorities, not the accused. There's a name for countries where only people with security clearances are allowed to form opinions.
- anigbrowl 2y ago
  Here's another example: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-det...