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Looks like 5 star ratings across the board for BYD vehicles on-sale in Europe https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/latest-safety-ratings/?selectedMake=46

Looks like 5 star ratings across the board for BYD vehicles on-sale in Europe https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/latest-safety-ratings/?selectedMake=46633&selectedMakeName=BYD&selectedModel=&selectedModelName=Model&nodeId=19322&allProtocols=true&selectedStar=&includeFullSafetyPackage=true&includeStandardSafetyPackage=true&selectedProtocols=54301,51097,49446,45155,41776,40302,34803,30636,26061,24370,-1&selectedClasses=1202,1199,1201,1196,1205,1203,1198,1179,40250,1197,1204,1180,34736,44997,54278,54293&allClasses=true&allDriverAssistanceTechnologies=false&selectedDriverAssistanceTechnologies=&thirdRowFitment=false https://www.euroncap.com/en/ratings-rewards/latest-safety-ra... Would not say these are ultra-cheap. There is probably a lot of "price that the market can sustain" going on here, rather than what it costs them to build the cars

ceejayoz 2y ago
> BYD vehicles on-sale in Europe But those aren't the sub-$10k ones, right?
- mattlondon 2y ago
  No idea. The cheapest they have for sale in the UK is the dolphin for about £26k ("On The Road", so all tax and delivery and registration etc included), but for that you get 250+ miles range and 7s 0-60mph, which not so long ago was Tesla-only territory, and is fairly competitive with what "traditional" brands (ford, VW, etc) are offering in terms of specs and price in the UK. I don't know if they sell the exact same model (same range, same speed, same tech trim etc) for $10k but I would not be that surprised that they'd be making a huge huge outrageous profit just because they can in the UK, because that is what the competitors are charging so why not? FWIW there are cheaper things on sale in the UK but they are much lower spec. E.g. £15K OTR gets you a 45bhp (yes, 45!) Dacia Spring that will get you from 0 to 60 in 19s (19!!!) and only go 100 miles between charges. Suddenly that BYD dolphin looks amazing. There is the Citroen AMI for £7.5k OTR, but that is legally not even classified as a car (it's a "quadricycle") has a range of 46 miles, a top speed of 28mph, and has not been crash tested by EuroNCAP ... It would likely be a total shit show if it were though. The BYD looks like a decent option by comparison, but I'd personally not pick one because they are such an unknown in this country and the price needs to be even lower for me to take a punt :)

ceejayoz 2y ago

> BYD vehicles on-sale in Europe But those aren't the sub-$10k ones, right?

mattlondon 2y ago
No idea. The cheapest they have for sale in the UK is the dolphin for about £26k ("On The Road", so all tax and delivery and registration etc included), but for that you get 250+ miles range and 7s 0-60mph, which not so long ago was Tesla-only territory, and is fairly competitive with what "traditional" brands (ford, VW, etc) are offering in terms of specs and price in the UK. I don't know if they sell the exact same model (same range, same speed, same tech trim etc) for $10k but I would not be that surprised that they'd be making a huge huge outrageous profit just because they can in the UK, because that is what the competitors are charging so why not? FWIW there are cheaper things on sale in the UK but they are much lower spec. E.g. £15K OTR gets you a 45bhp (yes, 45!) Dacia Spring that will get you from 0 to 60 in 19s (19!!!) and only go 100 miles between charges. Suddenly that BYD dolphin looks amazing. There is the Citroen AMI for £7.5k OTR, but that is legally not even classified as a car (it's a "quadricycle") has a range of 46 miles, a top speed of 28mph, and has not been crash tested by EuroNCAP ... It would likely be a total shit show if it were though. The BYD looks like a decent option by comparison, but I'd personally not pick one because they are such an unknown in this country and the price needs to be even lower for me to take a punt :)