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Gah! Why did they name their installer Anaconda? That name is already totally overloaded by the python Anaconda, which I notice now bills itself as "The Operati

Gah! Why did they name their installer Anaconda? That name is already totally overloaded by the python Anaconda, which I notice now bills itself as "The Operating System for AI". That's like naming your programming language "JIT", or "Compiler" or..."Hack". UPDATE: as others have pointed out, I've got it backwards. RedHat had the name first. So, criticism retracted and redirected at the other Anaconda.

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jjice 2y ago
Leave it to Meta: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_(programming_language) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_(programming_language)
yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(installer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(installer) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(Python_distribution) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(Python_distribution) , the installer dates to 1999 and the python distro dates to 2012. So yes, the name is overloaded, but the installer came first, and came first by a lot.
- staplung 2y ago
  Ah, okay. Criticism retracted from RedHat and redirected at (python) Anaconda.
- m4rtink 2y ago
  And 1999 is just how far the Git history (imported from CVS, the project kinda skipped subversion directly to Git) goes. - The first commit is from April 24 1999 and says: "the very start of a gui frontend for anaconda": https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/commit/785d44bf73ccc1d57d771895cc94112a34857809 https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/commit/785d44bf73ccc... This kinda implies that Anaconda was in existence for some time back then & what was tracked in the newflangled change tracking software was the fancy new graphical UI. :) I have not really looked further if perhaps the backend was imported later on or just grew from the GUI - but the same codebase, with continous 27 years of history is what installs the Fedora 42 Beta today. :-)
- m4rtink 2y ago
  OK, managed to dig up even more Anaconda history, including origins of the name: https://anaconda-installer.readthedocs.io/en/latest/intro.html#history https://anaconda-installer.readthedocs.io/en/latest/intro.ht...
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    Interesting that that says > So the Anaconda code base that we all started with began in 1999 or so which implies that the pre-vcs history is pretty short.
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messe 2y ago
Their installer predates the python Anaconda before then a decade, before Python was even remotely as popular as today. But you're totally right, they obviously should have been more prescient and named it something else.
- twnrt 2y ago
  Yes. Also Python itself was first released in 1991. The name "Python" had been in use in the CMUCL compiler for 6 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMU_Common_Lisp#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMU_Common_Lisp#History Certainly the Python trademark is sketchy.
skyyler 2y ago
You should be asking why the python Anaconda overloaded a term already being used by the Red Hat installer.
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jjice 2y ago

Leave it to Meta: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_(programming_language) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_(programming_language)

yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(installer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(installer) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(Python_distribution) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(Python_distribution) , the installer dates to 1999 and the python distro dates to 2012. So yes, the name is overloaded, but the installer came first, and came first by a lot.

staplung 2y ago
Ah, okay. Criticism retracted from RedHat and redirected at (python) Anaconda.
m4rtink 2y ago
And 1999 is just how far the Git history (imported from CVS, the project kinda skipped subversion directly to Git) goes. - The first commit is from April 24 1999 and says: "the very start of a gui frontend for anaconda": https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/commit/785d44bf73ccc1d57d771895cc94112a34857809 https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/commit/785d44bf73ccc... This kinda implies that Anaconda was in existence for some time back then & what was tracked in the newflangled change tracking software was the fancy new graphical UI. :) I have not really looked further if perhaps the backend was imported later on or just grew from the GUI - but the same codebase, with continous 27 years of history is what installs the Fedora 42 Beta today. :-)
m4rtink 2y ago
OK, managed to dig up even more Anaconda history, including origins of the name: https://anaconda-installer.readthedocs.io/en/latest/intro.html#history https://anaconda-installer.readthedocs.io/en/latest/intro.ht...
- yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
  Interesting that that says > So the Anaconda code base that we all started with began in 1999 or so which implies that the pre-vcs history is pretty short.

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messe 2y ago

Their installer predates the python Anaconda before then a decade, before Python was even remotely as popular as today. But you're totally right, they obviously should have been more prescient and named it something else.

twnrt 2y ago
Yes. Also Python itself was first released in 1991. The name "Python" had been in use in the CMUCL compiler for 6 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMU_Common_Lisp#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMU_Common_Lisp#History Certainly the Python trademark is sketchy.

skyyler 2y ago

You should be asking why the python Anaconda overloaded a term already being used by the Red Hat installer.

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