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Funny, aren't you USers used to not knowing what you'll pay for something because the advertised prices don't include sales taxes and administrative fees and wh
by nottorp 2y ago
Funny, aren't you USers used to not knowing what you'll pay for something because the advertised prices don't include sales taxes and administrative fees and whatever fees and service charges and tips that are not service charges?
- hombre_fatal 2y agoNo, those questions are answered at point of sale in the US like when you click a Checkout button or you're at the cash register. Prices changing after a preorder is completely different and not anything US specific.
- nottorp 2y agoWell in europe letting me know what the real price is only at the cash register and not when I check out the product in the store is as unusual as your problem with import duties :) I think it may even be illegal for consumer prices. What they display or list in the contract is what you pay. But on the other hand I'm used to paying import taxes separately when ordering something from outside the EU.
- hombre_fatal 2y agoYes, Americans don't know the exact price of the products in their cart between the 10min they put the items in their cart and when they check out. They know it will be a little more and they mentally budget for it. But that doesn't have much to do with a price increasing weeks or months after paying for a preorder.
- nottorp 2y agoSo you can mentally separate the price the vendor charges from taxes imposed by the state when you pick up in the store but not when ordering internationally?
- vel0city 2y agoNot with an administration levying 250% tariffs one day and cancelling them a few hours later. Tax policies change from the Truth Social post to the press conference.
- Uvix 2y agoIt’s not an international purchase, though. Core Devices is a US company.
- nottorp 2y agoAmerican components, russian components, all are made in Taiwan...
- swiftcoder 2y agoPretty much all tech purchases are implicitly international. During the last Trump administration we were madly spinning up additional manufacturing capacity in Vietnam, because the full tariffs on China, had they come into effect, would have doubled the retail price of an Oculus headset (which is a US corporation, just as in this scenario)
- diggan 2y agoNever a good look to assume where someone is located :) FWIW, I'm in south-Europe, maybe that's why I got surprised I wouldn't have known the final price until the device would land in my hand?
- nottorp 2y agoHaven't bought something from outside the EU in a while? They charge us at least VAT (maybe over a certain price, depending on your jurisdiction) :) Large stores can afford to precalculate this and use a service that will handle taxes for you, small stores not so much so you may end paying it personally on receiving the package. But they can afford to precalculate it if the taxes are known in advance (usually starts at whatever your country's VAT rate is). Now in this case, shipping to the US looks like it will be randomly taxed depending on the phase of the moon and how well Trump has slept last night, so this warning is fair. You can't expect them to absorb a 50% import tax if it's established tomorrow.
- diggan 2y ago> Haven't bought something from outside the EU in a while? They charge us at least VAT (maybe over a certain price, depending on your jurisdiction) :) Sure, and as you also seem familiar with, you know it's pretty trivial to calculate yourself when you place your order :) So far, I've never bought something internationally, then before shipping the tax laws changed enough that the toll and/or tax payment was different than I expected.
- nottorp 2y agoNo but there's a certain jurisdiction across an ocean where that's likely to happen and that's what they are aiming at.
- jorts 2y agoIt’s not hard to roughly calculate tax.