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The difference doesn't matter for the purpose of this thread. The comment was crude, inappropriate, and unnecessarily political.
by otterley 2y ago
The difference doesn't matter for the purpose of this thread. The comment was crude, inappropriate, and unnecessarily political.
- dttze 2y agoYes it does. If they were founded by former Russian or Chinese intel you would hear the same thing.
- otterley 2y agoIsrael is a democracy; Russia and China are not. Also, whataboutisms are childish arguments that don't belong on HN.
- dttze 2y ago[flagged]
- otterley 2y ago> Israel isn’t a democracy anymore than the US is This thread is over.
- groos 2y ago[flagged]
- otterley 2y agoThe constitution of a nation and its practices are separate axes. Many US states practiced the functional equivalent of apartheid until the 1960s, but the USA was still a democracy nevertheless. (This is not intended to reflect any opinion I may have about Israel's specific practices.)
- jrflowers 2y agoI agree. The comment that equated an intelligence service with a religion was crude, inappropriate and unnecessarily political. It is downright shameful to invoke the very real phenomenon of religious persecution as a way to discourage mere mention of a specific, relatively small intelligence organization.
- breppp 2y agoantisemitism was often driven by race and not religion germans in the holocaust murdered jews that had converted to christianity or simply had a jewish parent or grandparent
- rat87 2y agoModern antisemitism tends to be rooted in racist prejudice against a Jewish ethnicity more then plain religious discrimination. And tends to be related to a lot of conspiracy theories. I think its possible to fairly critize a nation state and and intelligence agency but some criticismtends towards mossad shark type conspiracies I dont think
- k4rli 2y agoIf they were founded by al-Qaeda then you'd also mention them being terrorists, no?
- otterley 2y agoNobody was talking about terrorism.
- amrocha 2y agoI think the point is that the Israeli government is akin to a terrorist organization
- otterley 2y agoI'm well aware of what the commenter was trying to suggest, and was not going to dignify it. Every time a story involves Israel somehow--even if it's about the success of a business based there--it turns into a debate about Israel itself. It's exhausting and stupid.
- amrocha 2y agoIf ex NSA agents made a cyber security company and Baidu acquired it I think that would be relevant.
- wahnfrieden 2y agoYes they are