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anti-zionism != anti-semitism learn your definition
by 7sigma 2y ago
anti-zionism != anti-semitism
learn your definition
- otterley 2y agoThe difference doesn't matter for the purpose of this thread. The comment was crude, inappropriate, and unnecessarily political.
- dttze 2y agoYes it does. If they were founded by former Russian or Chinese intel you would hear the same thing.
- otterley 2y agoIsrael is a democracy; Russia and China are not. Also, whataboutisms are childish arguments that don't belong on HN.
- dttze 2y ago[flagged]
- otterley 2y ago> Israel isn’t a democracy anymore than the US is This thread is over.
- groos 2y ago[flagged]
- otterley 2y agoThe constitution of a nation and its practices are separate axes. Many US states practiced the functional equivalent of apartheid until the 1960s, but the USA was still a democracy nevertheless. (This is not intended to reflect any opinion I may have about Israel's specific practices.)
- jrflowers 2y agoI agree. The comment that equated an intelligence service with a religion was crude, inappropriate and unnecessarily political. It is downright shameful to invoke the very real phenomenon of religious persecution as a way to discourage mere mention of a specific, relatively small intelligence organization.
- breppp 2y agoantisemitism was often driven by race and not religion germans in the holocaust murdered jews that had converted to christianity or simply had a jewish parent or grandparent
- rat87 2y agoModern antisemitism tends to be rooted in racist prejudice against a Jewish ethnicity more then plain religious discrimination. And tends to be related to a lot of conspiracy theories. I think its possible to fairly critize a nation state and and intelligence agency but some criticismtends towards mossad shark type conspiracies I dont think
- k4rli 2y agoIf they were founded by al-Qaeda then you'd also mention them being terrorists, no?
- otterley 2y agoNobody was talking about terrorism.
- amrocha 2y agoI think the point is that the Israeli government is akin to a terrorist organization
- otterley 2y agoI'm well aware of what the commenter was trying to suggest, and was not going to dignify it. Every time a story involves Israel somehow--even if it's about the success of a business based there--it turns into a debate about Israel itself. It's exhausting and stupid.
- amrocha 2y agoIf ex NSA agents made a cyber security company and Baidu acquired it I think that would be relevant.
- wahnfrieden 2y agoYes they are
- reliabilityguy 2y agoDenying jewish people the right for self determination is antisemitic as hell, no?
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