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Of course the founder is a normal civilian. Israel has mandatory conscription so you'd expect any normal civilian to also have served in the IDF at some point.
by shilgapira 2y ago
Of course the founder is a normal civilian. Israel has mandatory conscription so you'd expect any normal civilian to also have served in the IDF at some point.
It might sound weird to people from the US and many other western nations. Most people there aren't concerned with serving in the military - they either leave it to working class folks to serve, or they don't really have any neighboring enemies.
The Israelis aren't as privileged unfortunately. Israel requires all its citizens to serve so that its military is large enough and strong enough to defend against attacks from the many regressive and murderous regimes that surround it, or even better, deter them from even trying to attack.
- cess11 2y ago[flagged]
- breppp 2y agoI seriously suspect you don't know what's the Talpiot program
- cess11 2y agoWhy? It's a military academy program deeply integrated into the research and development of the IDF and israeli military industry. It's where you go if you're really bright and really loyal to the genocidal aspects of israeli society and want to spend six years devoted to that.
- breppp 2y agolol "genocidal aspects of israeli society" recently i have been meeting more and more people whose entire vocabulary seem to be hyperboles and are only capable of black and white thinking
- cess11 2y agoThere isn't much grey in airstrikes on starving children shivering in tents. No sane, healthy person would approve of such an atrocity. The israeli political establishment commonly declares genocidal intent against the palestinians, and uses military, sexual, reproductive and other means, including starvation, to realise this intent. This isn't really something to discuss, the reader can just go search for video clips with threats and Amalek rhetoric and how perpetrators of heinous crimes are paraded in israeli television. Whether it will hold in court is uncertain, in part because international law is not just a legal matter. Buying a corporation that has it's technical division under such a regime seems like a bad idea to me, and I would also find the founders history with that state quite worrying.
- gryzzly 2y agothere aren’t any airstrikes on starving children shivering in tents if hamas isn’t using their tent for attacking / smuggling / planning terror. what you are doing is inciting hate against A PEOPLE. not criticizing IDF for bad conduct.
- cess11 2y agoWhy do you think you're allowed to murder children if they are close to people engaged in legitimate resistance to occupation? If what I write incite hatred towards the palestinians in you, that's a you problem and you should probably seek out professional help with that.
- gryzzly 2y agoTerrorism is not legitimate – that’s pretty basic. And I think IDF is allowed to pursue the destruction of Hamas, because that is what international law says. If someone fires rockets that can kill thousands they are a legitimate target. "IHL prohibits attacks that may be expected to cause excessive incidental civilian harm in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated. In the conduct of hostilities, causing incidental harm to civilians and civilian objects is often unavoidable." – Hamas leadership has planned and is planning attacks on Israeli civilians and destroying the Hamas leadership and militants is of a concrete and direct military advantage. You should seek out palestinian voices that are interested in peace and life, not a death cult. To call the Hamas leadership "legitimate resistance to occupation" is just sick. They are bathing in luxury while Gazans die. They do not let the population to use their tunnels as bomb shelters. They sell the free humanitarian aid to extremely poor people, forcing the family members to sacrifice life and go join hamas, cause obviously that’s the only source of cash in the strip. You must be hating gazans even more than you hate jews, actually.
- jacooper 2y agoEven if we took mandatory service as an excuse to serve for an occupation army, the guy overstayed his mandatory service, he chose to continue working in that intelligence unit.
- shilgapira 2y agoWhy wouldn't he make that choice? I don't know where you live, but he lives in a country that's surrounded by theocratic dictatorships, failed states, and Islamist terrorists who livestream murders and kidnappings. His choice seems perfectly rational to me.
- jacooper 2y agoI can derail the conversation just like you are trying to but I'm going to keep it short. This guy isn't a normal innocent civilian, that's my point.