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It’s almost like parenting. Children from a bad environment are more likely to have problems later. Not very different from dogs. Both try to fit into their env

It’s almost like parenting. Children from a bad environment are more likely to have problems later. Not very different from dogs. Both try to fit into their environment and take clues for “correct” behavior from there. That’s as opposed to cats. They always plot to kill you.

psunavy03 2y ago
Nah. Cats are fine as long as you keep the food and scritches coming and Do Not. Touch. The Tummy.
giraffe_lady 2y ago
The study doesn't have anything to say about dog behavior, and makes no attempt to connect individual dog behavior to environment as far as I can tell. The connection they're pointing to is that criminal behavior correlates with choosing one of these dog types.
- conductr 2y ago
  You have to look beyond the study to common sense and why this produces “duh” level of insights. It’s an entire culture. Violence, crime, usually also associated with poverty, etc. when an entire neighborhood/part of a city is known for this, as often happens, it’s because it’s become the culture. As an example, you have an entire genre of music that almost solely glorifies gang life, dealing drugs, carrying guns, etc and they all have pit bulls with spiked collars in their music videos. This promotes what’s already happening IRL. (I say this as a huge “gangster rap” fan!) An aggressive personality is drawn to an aggressive breed of dog and then when treated aggressively is considered vicious.
  - giraffe_lady 2y ago
    > It’s an entire culture. Violence, crime, usually also associated with poverty, etc. when an entire neighborhood/part of a city is known for this, as often happens, it’s because it’s become the culture. > As an example, you have an entire genre of music that almost solely glorifies gang life, dealing drugs, carrying guns, etc and they You're talking about country music right? Because in the rural south where I grew up the most visible pitbull-venerating subculture by far was also really into country music, gun violence, and selling xanax and percocet.
    - conductr 2y ago
      > You're talking about country music right? No I think you know I clearly referenced another culture/subculture via musical genre but I’m also not saying it’s mutually exclusive in any sense so I’m glad you’ve pointed out another example that illustrates my point I don’t know much about about the one you spoke about despite being a WASP from Texas I don’t listen to country music but know rap quite well and pull from my knowledge base when writing comments online. I don’t want to make the comment racial at all, but poor people in America have a lot of similarities whether they be white or black they glorify violence, drugs, etc the main difference is urban/rural.
janice1999 2y ago
> Not very different from dogs. The vast majority of fatal dog attacks are carried out by a handful of breeds (66% of deaths in the US are caused by pitbulls). In the UK, the majority of recent deaths were caused by the recently introduced Bully XL, which is now banned.
- paleotrope 2y ago
  The Bully is basically a pit bull as well.

psunavy03 2y ago

Nah. Cats are fine as long as you keep the food and scritches coming and Do Not. Touch. The Tummy.

giraffe_lady 2y ago

The study doesn't have anything to say about dog behavior, and makes no attempt to connect individual dog behavior to environment as far as I can tell. The connection they're pointing to is that criminal behavior correlates with choosing one of these dog types.

conductr 2y ago
You have to look beyond the study to common sense and why this produces “duh” level of insights. It’s an entire culture. Violence, crime, usually also associated with poverty, etc. when an entire neighborhood/part of a city is known for this, as often happens, it’s because it’s become the culture. As an example, you have an entire genre of music that almost solely glorifies gang life, dealing drugs, carrying guns, etc and they all have pit bulls with spiked collars in their music videos. This promotes what’s already happening IRL. (I say this as a huge “gangster rap” fan!) An aggressive personality is drawn to an aggressive breed of dog and then when treated aggressively is considered vicious.
- giraffe_lady 2y ago
  > It’s an entire culture. Violence, crime, usually also associated with poverty, etc. when an entire neighborhood/part of a city is known for this, as often happens, it’s because it’s become the culture. > As an example, you have an entire genre of music that almost solely glorifies gang life, dealing drugs, carrying guns, etc and they You're talking about country music right? Because in the rural south where I grew up the most visible pitbull-venerating subculture by far was also really into country music, gun violence, and selling xanax and percocet.
  - conductr 2y ago
    > You're talking about country music right? No I think you know I clearly referenced another culture/subculture via musical genre but I’m also not saying it’s mutually exclusive in any sense so I’m glad you’ve pointed out another example that illustrates my point I don’t know much about about the one you spoke about despite being a WASP from Texas I don’t listen to country music but know rap quite well and pull from my knowledge base when writing comments online. I don’t want to make the comment racial at all, but poor people in America have a lot of similarities whether they be white or black they glorify violence, drugs, etc the main difference is urban/rural.

janice1999 2y ago

> Not very different from dogs. The vast majority of fatal dog attacks are carried out by a handful of breeds (66% of deaths in the US are caused by pitbulls). In the UK, the majority of recent deaths were caused by the recently introduced Bully XL, which is now banned.

paleotrope 2y ago
The Bully is basically a pit bull as well.