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I would love to degrade my YouTube experience and make it slower when switching videos, would make it a lot less addictive specially with shorts.

brainzap 2y ago
I am experimenting a bit and definitly, a little bit loading delay helps to break the loop and „wake up“
- ushiroda80 2y ago
  21th century will be remembered as the great digital drug crisis.
  - catlikesshrimp 2y ago
    Or the Start of the Digital Drug Era.
  - haagendos 2y ago
    [dead]
  - layer8 2y ago
    Maybe wait until the brain implants.
- j45 2y ago
  Slowing down certain domains bandwidth can help too.
  - pcardoso 2y ago
    It would, but it would also decrease the video quality. I'm not opposed to letting my kids watch YouTube, there is a lot of good quality content there, but having some agency in what they pick would be a lot better than the current behavior of short after short after short. Just like snacking on fast food.
    - j45 2y ago
      Interesting points and some things I've been exploring too: Video quality does decrease, and sometimes that's good a good thing.. :) - Lower video quality is lower resolution = less addictive. - Decreasing saturated colors reduces children's brain heroin. (Try to put the tv in normal or movie color mode and see the addictiveness fall off). - Lowering the sound helps kids hear less of the background addictive noises and strain their hearing a little more and can help them get tired. - Lowering brightness can help with as well. - Kids device for viewing could be different than adults to allow filtering and shaping. As for content, I agree. - Recently I heard there's more and more fraudulent content under official channels that includes bad content inside the good stuff. This needs to be caught. - Managing access to shorts is important, if not limit outright. Do you have a youtube premium account that removes ads by chance?
Always42 2y ago
Thought this was sarcasm till the end. Good idea
create-username 2y ago
Isn’t Google degrading your user experience well enough?
j45 2y ago
This comment made me wonder if some folks have been compelled to find a way to block shorts. My use of YouTube predates shorts, and I haven’t been a huge shorts consumer on social platforms, and I seem kind of indifferent to them. Anyone else? Maybe there is something we can figure out and share with our friends who want to manage their shorts use. Also, apps like opal can be really helpful. https://www.opal.so/ https://www.opal.so/
- pcardoso 2y ago
  I never got used to shorts/reels/etc, but it is troubling to see kids addicted to them. I have been thinking that by forcing some pause between videos it would remove some of their addictiveness.
  - immibis 2y ago
    It does. Sometimes I click on an interesting short and then keep swiping to see if anything else is interesting. When the app takes ten seconds to load, I go do something else because there's no real value in the shorts.
Narishma 2y ago
Google has been doing that for you since they bought Youtube.
- ok_dad 2y ago
  I gotta say, I don’t get that perspective. The content is one thing, but YouTube is super reliable for me, streaming or watching. I can easily stream in 4k 60FPS from OBS and YouTube has never had issues ingesting it, though I generally do 1440p because my computer is slow. When watching, I have never had an interruption on my wired Apple TV even for 4k/60FPS. I do hate the pushing of shorts and the algorithm that seems to have a 3 video memory, but aside from that I’m pretty happy, I don’t get the weird right wing stuff or creepy videos pushed at me or my kids.
  - Narishma 2y ago
    For me the content is not the main problem, rather the consistent bloating and enshitification of the player and interface over the years. Nowadays I don't bother anymore and just use mpv and ytdlp to play the few videos I'm interested in.
    - vachina 2y ago
      The time you spent wrangling your player and scripts costs at least x10 the time it takes for you to open a browser, and visit m.youtube.com
      - Narishma 2y ago
        I don't even bother using scripts, I just manually paste the URL of the video I want to watch into mpv. It's not slow enough for me to have to deal with the garbage Youtube interface.

brainzap 2y ago

I am experimenting a bit and definitly, a little bit loading delay helps to break the loop and „wake up“

ushiroda80 2y ago
21th century will be remembered as the great digital drug crisis.
- catlikesshrimp 2y ago
  Or the Start of the Digital Drug Era.
- haagendos 2y ago
  [dead]
- layer8 2y ago
  Maybe wait until the brain implants.
j45 2y ago
Slowing down certain domains bandwidth can help too.
- pcardoso 2y ago
  It would, but it would also decrease the video quality. I'm not opposed to letting my kids watch YouTube, there is a lot of good quality content there, but having some agency in what they pick would be a lot better than the current behavior of short after short after short. Just like snacking on fast food.
  - j45 2y ago
    Interesting points and some things I've been exploring too: Video quality does decrease, and sometimes that's good a good thing.. :) - Lower video quality is lower resolution = less addictive. - Decreasing saturated colors reduces children's brain heroin. (Try to put the tv in normal or movie color mode and see the addictiveness fall off). - Lowering the sound helps kids hear less of the background addictive noises and strain their hearing a little more and can help them get tired. - Lowering brightness can help with as well. - Kids device for viewing could be different than adults to allow filtering and shaping. As for content, I agree. - Recently I heard there's more and more fraudulent content under official channels that includes bad content inside the good stuff. This needs to be caught. - Managing access to shorts is important, if not limit outright. Do you have a youtube premium account that removes ads by chance?

Always42 2y ago

Thought this was sarcasm till the end. Good idea

create-username 2y ago

Isn’t Google degrading your user experience well enough?

j45 2y ago

This comment made me wonder if some folks have been compelled to find a way to block shorts. My use of YouTube predates shorts, and I haven’t been a huge shorts consumer on social platforms, and I seem kind of indifferent to them. Anyone else? Maybe there is something we can figure out and share with our friends who want to manage their shorts use. Also, apps like opal can be really helpful. https://www.opal.so/ https://www.opal.so/

pcardoso 2y ago
I never got used to shorts/reels/etc, but it is troubling to see kids addicted to them. I have been thinking that by forcing some pause between videos it would remove some of their addictiveness.
- immibis 2y ago
  It does. Sometimes I click on an interesting short and then keep swiping to see if anything else is interesting. When the app takes ten seconds to load, I go do something else because there's no real value in the shorts.

Narishma 2y ago

Google has been doing that for you since they bought Youtube.

ok_dad 2y ago
I gotta say, I don’t get that perspective. The content is one thing, but YouTube is super reliable for me, streaming or watching. I can easily stream in 4k 60FPS from OBS and YouTube has never had issues ingesting it, though I generally do 1440p because my computer is slow. When watching, I have never had an interruption on my wired Apple TV even for 4k/60FPS. I do hate the pushing of shorts and the algorithm that seems to have a 3 video memory, but aside from that I’m pretty happy, I don’t get the weird right wing stuff or creepy videos pushed at me or my kids.
- Narishma 2y ago
  For me the content is not the main problem, rather the consistent bloating and enshitification of the player and interface over the years. Nowadays I don't bother anymore and just use mpv and ytdlp to play the few videos I'm interested in.
  - vachina 2y ago
    The time you spent wrangling your player and scripts costs at least x10 the time it takes for you to open a browser, and visit m.youtube.com
    - Narishma 2y ago
      I don't even bother using scripts, I just manually paste the URL of the video I want to watch into mpv. It's not slow enough for me to have to deal with the garbage Youtube interface.