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When will these cars have a breakthrough in terms of UI and privacy (let's ignore the cost for a moment). I don't want to spend a shitload of money on an iPhon
by Arch-TK 2y ago
When will these cars have a breakthrough in terms of UI and privacy (let's ignore the cost for a moment).
I don't want to spend a shitload of money on an iPhone with wheels which doesn't even come with all the privacy promises apple makes and which is full of dark patterns, subscription models, and proprietary interfaces (talking about apple carplay, android auto, feature allowing you to use spotify, etc. The mere fact the car has these makes me not want to buy it, even though I would never use them. Paying money to have a hardcoded e.g. spotify client in my car is encouraging exactly the wrong design practices.).
- mavhc 2y agoBuy a cheap EV. Remove the antenna, privacy problem solved. Use your phone for satnav and streaming audio via bluetooth. Same as with a TV, you get it cheaper because they're expecting you to subscribe, so you don't and profit.
- OrderlyTiamat 2y agoDo you know of someone who has successfully done this?
- _heimdall 2y agoIs that feasible? I looked into removing OnStar in a first gen Chevy Volt but from what I found its so deeply integrated into the entertainment system that many things just can't work without it.
- timeon 2y agoThis is is not just problem for the owners but anyone else. All those cameras are privacy problem in general (sometimes used also with parked cars - like in case of Tesla).
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 2y agoNever. The government wants you to drive "an iPhone with wheels" because it comes with a convenient spying device. Means they don't need to put up a network of cameras to track you (some do anyway). It probably also bundles a remote kill switch just in case you offend some bureaucrat or just if you expend all your future energy ration. The suggestion to remove the antenna will probably make it fail a government "safety" inspection.
- bbatha 2y agoThis basically describes Tesla only. Drive a different brand and you get a very similar experience to a gas powered car. Unfortunately a terrible track record on privacy is par for the course in all vehicles in 2025.
- archagon 2y agoTesla, privacy...?! I remember years ago when Musk remotely disabled root access to someone's car because they were rummaging around in the software too much. Plus all the times Tesla publicly released play-by-play details of an Autopilot/FSD crash to the news. If anything, I'd categorize Tesla as the least privacy-focused car company out there, especially now that they'll face zero repercussions from the federal government for any violations.
- bbatha 2y agoI did not say Tesla has good privacy. I said all cars have terrible privacy track records ICE or EV. Tesla may be the worst but the insurance rates scandal of last summer means they’re all unacceptable. I’m calling out Tesla has having the hyper modern non functional interfaces shoddy build quality and other EV specific problems. The classic manufacturers have all released functional EVs that check OPs boxes.
- est 2y agoby a BYD seagull. Zero auto-pilot features, no cameras, just plain Android tablet you can install .apk you want.