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I am migrating away from Proton. In theory they check all marks, in practice they fail in delivering baseline functionality in all categories. 1. The Web inter

I am migrating away from Proton. In theory they check all marks, in practice they fail in delivering baseline functionality in all categories. 1. The Web interface email is so-so, but the proxy email bridge is really heavy and takes a huge amount of disk space. It also makes my computer start flying from time to time. The iOS email client(very important as they dont support standard protocols) is just useless. The text is rendered like an image which I need to pinch to zoom in and slide across the text. There is no way for the font size to be increased to a legible amount. The images in attachment are not in a carroussel so I need to open1/close1/open2/close2/open3/close3 if there are 3 attached images. In an email client this is absolutely basic. 2. ProtonDrive: It took a long while before rclone was supported and for their web client to be working, "ok". Anyway it is basically unusable as a backup cloud service because it takes forever to encrypt in the browser. I just gave up and have no idea what is the state of sync of my files there. I just moved to backblaze and am waiting for my Proton subscription to expire. 3. ProtonVPN: Good on paper, totally untrusted and blocked by the internet. I can't navigate without filling 10 captchas or just be outright blocked. 4. ProtonCalendar is proprietary and not compatible with generic tools in iOS or linux or Android. I gave up trying their other services as I just expect them to be as incomplete. I mean: Email is the thing that needs to work right and every time I need to see some email together with my wife I feel like this goofy person that complicates what for everyone else is one of the most basic tasks in using a computer. If I could I would just cancel and ask my money back, unfortunately they do not do that.

pmdr 2y ago
> 3. ProtonVPN: Good on paper, totally untrusted and blocked by the internet. I can't navigate without filling 10 captchas or just be outright blocked. Even residential IPs are being blocked nowadays, we have Cloudflare to thank for that.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  Yes! I run Firefox on Linux and I constantly get captcha'd everywhere (by that typical cloudflare loading page) because I'm not part of the 95% that runs Windows or Mac. Cloudflare is an awful thing for the internet.
  - unmole 2y ago
    I run Firefox on Linux and I rarely encounter Cloudflare captchas.
    - SSLy 2y ago
      cloudflare seethes at firefox users that have strict tracking protections enabled. OTOH it's still much less violent than hCaptcha or google. Especially if you install their PoW pass extension.
      - wkat4242 2y ago
        And yes I see your edit, Sometimes with google captcha I just end up in a never ending loop.
      - wkat4242 2y ago
        Ahhh and yes, I have this too. Not only the Firefox tracking protection but also uBlock origin with all the lists enabled (and some custom ones too).
    - wkat4242 2y ago
      Strange, I get them so much. It might be because I tweaked my user agent. I had to do this, because Microsoft is being obstinate and disabling a lot of M365 features if you're on Firefox on Linux. When I set my UA to Edge it suddenly works totally fine. I'm just a bit stuck with M365 due to my work, unfortunately.
      - cpach 2y ago
        In that case you might want to consider keeping a separate Firefox profile for M365. Then you can have the alternative UA string only in that profile.
      - owenthejumper 2y ago
        So you answered the question right? You are blaming CF yet your change is causing CF to detect you as an untrusted browser. Not their fault.
- Foobar8568 2y ago
  I get banned within 5 minutes when I browse Hermes or LV websites, fun stuff...
  - SSLy 2y ago
    I got banned from dash.cloudflare.com because apparently opening a few new tabs quickly is enough…
    - squarefoot 2y ago
      That would be extremely stupid from their part as it checks with a browser merely restarting with or recalling the latest session.
      - SSLy 2y ago
        well, I can trigger it again and post a screencap if you don't believe me. Shall I?
PhilippGille 2y ago
What are you migrating to?
jb1991 2y ago
Have you considered mailbox.org? I rarely hear much about this German mail provider that supposedly prioritizes privacy.

pmdr 2y ago

> 3. ProtonVPN: Good on paper, totally untrusted and blocked by the internet. I can't navigate without filling 10 captchas or just be outright blocked. Even residential IPs are being blocked nowadays, we have Cloudflare to thank for that.

wkat4242 2y ago
Yes! I run Firefox on Linux and I constantly get captcha'd everywhere (by that typical cloudflare loading page) because I'm not part of the 95% that runs Windows or Mac. Cloudflare is an awful thing for the internet.
- unmole 2y ago
  I run Firefox on Linux and I rarely encounter Cloudflare captchas.
  - SSLy 2y ago
    cloudflare seethes at firefox users that have strict tracking protections enabled. OTOH it's still much less violent than hCaptcha or google. Especially if you install their PoW pass extension.
    - wkat4242 2y ago
      And yes I see your edit, Sometimes with google captcha I just end up in a never ending loop.
    - wkat4242 2y ago
      Ahhh and yes, I have this too. Not only the Firefox tracking protection but also uBlock origin with all the lists enabled (and some custom ones too).
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    Strange, I get them so much. It might be because I tweaked my user agent. I had to do this, because Microsoft is being obstinate and disabling a lot of M365 features if you're on Firefox on Linux. When I set my UA to Edge it suddenly works totally fine. I'm just a bit stuck with M365 due to my work, unfortunately.
    - cpach 2y ago
      In that case you might want to consider keeping a separate Firefox profile for M365. Then you can have the alternative UA string only in that profile.
    - owenthejumper 2y ago
      So you answered the question right? You are blaming CF yet your change is causing CF to detect you as an untrusted browser. Not their fault.
Foobar8568 2y ago
I get banned within 5 minutes when I browse Hermes or LV websites, fun stuff...
- SSLy 2y ago
  I got banned from dash.cloudflare.com because apparently opening a few new tabs quickly is enough…
  - squarefoot 2y ago
    That would be extremely stupid from their part as it checks with a browser merely restarting with or recalling the latest session.
    - SSLy 2y ago
      well, I can trigger it again and post a screencap if you don't believe me. Shall I?

PhilippGille 2y ago

What are you migrating to?

jb1991 2y ago

Have you considered mailbox.org? I rarely hear much about this German mail provider that supposedly prioritizes privacy.