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This hammer is really bad for working with screws. If you need something like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinta_(software) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki

This hammer is really bad for working with screws. If you need something like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinta_(software) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinta_(software) use that. If you want something like krita, use that. And if you need something like gimp, paint.net is not even in consideration because it is decidedly something else

wruza 2y ago
I tried all of that and they all just suck. E.g. neither pinta nor krita don’t show selection rectangle coords in the status bar. How the heck should I e.g. investigate screenshot-based automation fails with that? What makes paint.net stand out is that it is a pixel canvas tool with layers rather than an artistic canvas for soft brushes. And at the same time it has all its features easily accessible. I have also worked as a “designer” in a real typography for some time and know a thing or two about the process (not fully, but count me as sort of an insider). And I can tell you that gimp is only “an artist’s impression” of a graphical toolbox, and that artist is heavily drunk. If you need something like gimp and paint.net/etc isn’t enough, you need photoshop. Cause we’re talking about serious pre-print color management, etc. Gimp is two parts: very poor home graphics editor and very poor industrial graphics manager. Youtube thumbnails are paint.net 100%. I use that all the time for all my graphics, technical and creative, tried all others, and have no reason to switch, apart from OS requirements.
- hallarempt 2y ago
  And why would, I, as a developer, spend time on supporting "screenshot-based automation" in a painting application?
  - wruza 2y ago
    As a developer of these apps, you owe me nothing, no need to treat every explanation as a demand. I just chose an app that has basic features like selection coords from the get go and shared my experience on a forum where it might be useful to others. How exactly people are using these coords -- for automation, or pixel arts, or precise composition/aspect ratio, or something else -- isn't relevant, same for other commonly present features.
wruza 2y ago
I just tried Pinta and retract my words about it, cause it shows coords. This could help with my gimp suffering. But generally it's really not as nice as Paint.net. I don't like the ui at all (washed and bleak, hamburger menus, checkboxes on layers swallow second clicks, clicks on icons sometimes demaximize window, etc, also slow). It's just bad. Idk if it's gtk3/4 or pinta itself. But it generally works and apart from that I'll give it a 4 out of 5.
- phil294 2y ago
  Pinta *IS* Paint.net, just forked at an earlier stage before the latter became closed source software. Also, is "washed and bleak" really that big of a problem for an image editor? It just doesn't matter what it looks like as long as the UI is intuitive and has the features that you need. It should also be noted that Pinta very much looks just like your overall Desktop appearance on Unix. I'm on XFCE and it's so incredibly theme integrated it looks like it's part of the system. Personally, I really like Pinta. Biggest problem is the bugs and crashes. Wish I could use actual Paint.net though, but there's no way to use it on Linux.

wruza 2y ago

I tried all of that and they all just suck. E.g. neither pinta nor krita don’t show selection rectangle coords in the status bar. How the heck should I e.g. investigate screenshot-based automation fails with that? What makes paint.net stand out is that it is a pixel canvas tool with layers rather than an artistic canvas for soft brushes. And at the same time it has all its features easily accessible. I have also worked as a “designer” in a real typography for some time and know a thing or two about the process (not fully, but count me as sort of an insider). And I can tell you that gimp is only “an artist’s impression” of a graphical toolbox, and that artist is heavily drunk. If you need something like gimp and paint.net/etc isn’t enough, you need photoshop. Cause we’re talking about serious pre-print color management, etc. Gimp is two parts: very poor home graphics editor and very poor industrial graphics manager. Youtube thumbnails are paint.net 100%. I use that all the time for all my graphics, technical and creative, tried all others, and have no reason to switch, apart from OS requirements.

hallarempt 2y ago
And why would, I, as a developer, spend time on supporting "screenshot-based automation" in a painting application?
- wruza 2y ago
  As a developer of these apps, you owe me nothing, no need to treat every explanation as a demand. I just chose an app that has basic features like selection coords from the get go and shared my experience on a forum where it might be useful to others. How exactly people are using these coords -- for automation, or pixel arts, or precise composition/aspect ratio, or something else -- isn't relevant, same for other commonly present features.

wruza 2y ago

I just tried Pinta and retract my words about it, cause it shows coords. This could help with my gimp suffering. But generally it's really not as nice as Paint.net. I don't like the ui at all (washed and bleak, hamburger menus, checkboxes on layers swallow second clicks, clicks on icons sometimes demaximize window, etc, also slow). It's just bad. Idk if it's gtk3/4 or pinta itself. But it generally works and apart from that I'll give it a 4 out of 5.

phil294 2y ago
Pinta *IS* Paint.net, just forked at an earlier stage before the latter became closed source software. Also, is "washed and bleak" really that big of a problem for an image editor? It just doesn't matter what it looks like as long as the UI is intuitive and has the features that you need. It should also be noted that Pinta very much looks just like your overall Desktop appearance on Unix. I'm on XFCE and it's so incredibly theme integrated it looks like it's part of the system. Personally, I really like Pinta. Biggest problem is the bugs and crashes. Wish I could use actual Paint.net though, but there's no way to use it on Linux.