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> sad that .NET and C# are not considered "major"... No need to be sad about that list. Java is also missing. There must be millions of enterprise programmer

by throwaway2037 2y ago

> sad that .NET and C# are not considered "major"... No need to be sad about that list. Java is also missing. There must be millions of enterprise programmers in the world using Java. I just checked the Java class HttpClient (a common JDK11+ HTTP client). It currently does not support HTTP/3, so add one more to the list! Ref: https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/24/docs/api/java.net.http/java/net/http/HttpClient.Version.html https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/24/docs/api/java.net.... Also, most of the very best network clients are now built on top of NettyIO. I can see an "incubator codec" here: https://github.com/netty/netty-incubator-codec-http3 https://github.com/netty/netty-incubator-codec-http3 Holy hell, this code is ridiculously complex: https://github.com/netty/netty-incubator-codec-http3/tree/main/src/main/java/io/netty/incubator/codec/http3 https://github.com/netty/netty-incubator-codec-http3/tree/ma... I'm not hating on NettyIO here, but the protocol looks complex. Yet another reason why it is so slow to be deployed to more application frameworks.

lmm 2y ago
I don't think many people use the builtin HttpClient these days. Apache httpclient would be the conservative standard, apparentyl it has some support for 2 but not 3: https://hc.apache.org/httpcomponents-client-5.4.x/index.html https://hc.apache.org/httpcomponents-client-5.4.x/index.html .
oaiey 2y ago
There is a very simple reason for not being on the list: It support HTTP/3 and the purpose of the post was to show the lack of support in common languages. .NET does not fit that list well. And it is obviously only popular in the dark matter of Enterprise Software Development.
- epolanski 2y ago
  C# is much closer in popularity to TypeScript/Python (the number 1s) than it is to Rust.
  - oaiey 2y ago
    In usage yes, in analysis yes but not in general popularity. And to Rust ... definitely. Rust is a niche product for system development. A very good one. A very popular one. But nothing you need for your day to day microservice.
- CharlieDigital 2y ago
  > And it is obviously only popular in the dark matter of Enterprise Software Development. Well, and apparently for game development given both Godot and Unity use C# and various builds of .NET

lmm 2y ago

I don't think many people use the builtin HttpClient these days. Apache httpclient would be the conservative standard, apparentyl it has some support for 2 but not 3: https://hc.apache.org/httpcomponents-client-5.4.x/index.html https://hc.apache.org/httpcomponents-client-5.4.x/index.html .

oaiey 2y ago

There is a very simple reason for not being on the list: It support HTTP/3 and the purpose of the post was to show the lack of support in common languages. .NET does not fit that list well. And it is obviously only popular in the dark matter of Enterprise Software Development.

epolanski 2y ago
C# is much closer in popularity to TypeScript/Python (the number 1s) than it is to Rust.
- oaiey 2y ago
  In usage yes, in analysis yes but not in general popularity. And to Rust ... definitely. Rust is a niche product for system development. A very good one. A very popular one. But nothing you need for your day to day microservice.
CharlieDigital 2y ago
> And it is obviously only popular in the dark matter of Enterprise Software Development. Well, and apparently for game development given both Godot and Unity use C# and various builds of .NET