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by rl3 2y ago

defrost 2y ago
I upvoted the comment for the first part that made a case for the minority status of specific veterens being as important a part of their story as the details of how a hill was taken are to the specific story of other specific veterans. I wasn't taken with the snark and shade thrown in the second part of that comment, and I dare say that others here on HN would have downvoted for that alone regardless of which side of any specific debate you chose to argue. It's not just 'Racists' or those with an opposing view that will downvote you here on HN, you will also get judged on the strength and presentation of your comment as if it were part of a debate club exchange.
- rl3 2y ago
  Thank you, and well put. >... and I dare say that others here on HN would have downvoted for that alone regardless of which side of any specific debate you chose to argue. That's fair. In fact, I used to be that person. I will say in recent years it's become far more common to see latent mass downvotes, but it's probably just some dynamic I'm not properly accounting for, perhaps latent attention on a submission tends to be the very type of user you just described. On the other hand, bot overlords attempting to shape the narrative probably realized a long time ago that the very early and very late phases are the best time to do said shaping. I'm just confused since this time I didn't even say nothin' unflattering about the PLA. >It's not just 'Racists' or those with an opposing view that will downvote you here on HN, you will also get judged on the strength and presentation of your comment as if it were part of a debate club exchange. I know you're just the messenger with regard to this point, but what irks me is that while this style is time-tested for tech topics and sadly works, for real-world topics—at times—it comes off as a grotesque form of whataboutism that can feel utterly insensitive if not detached from reality. A great example is the recent news with USAID. No submission about this on HN made it to triple digit upvotes. The stakes in terms of human suffering are a few million dead people, per year. The dude who shuttered the agency was a product of the tech community, and our little debate club format here can't even handle discussing that news. It's shameful.
readthenotes1 2y ago
I'd have downvoted it for assuming I "support this shit".

This comment went from +5 to 0 almost 24 hours later. Racists win! Perhaps the bots have hate in their hearts.

by rl3 2y ago

This comment went from +5 to 0 almost 24 hours later. Racists win! Perhaps the bots have hate in their hearts.

I upvoted the comment for the first part that made a case for the minority status of specific veterens being as important a part of their story as the details of how a hill was taken are to the specific story of other specific veterans. I wasn't taken with the snark and shade thrown in the second part of that comment, and I dare say that others here on HN would have downvoted for that alone regardless of which side of any specific debate you chose to argue. It's not just 'Racists' or those with an opposing view that will downvote you here on HN, you will also get judged on the strength and presentation of your comment as if it were part of a debate club exchange.

rl3 2y ago
Thank you, and well put. >... and I dare say that others here on HN would have downvoted for that alone regardless of which side of any specific debate you chose to argue. That's fair. In fact, I used to be that person. I will say in recent years it's become far more common to see latent mass downvotes, but it's probably just some dynamic I'm not properly accounting for, perhaps latent attention on a submission tends to be the very type of user you just described. On the other hand, bot overlords attempting to shape the narrative probably realized a long time ago that the very early and very late phases are the best time to do said shaping. I'm just confused since this time I didn't even say nothin' unflattering about the PLA. >It's not just 'Racists' or those with an opposing view that will downvote you here on HN, you will also get judged on the strength and presentation of your comment as if it were part of a debate club exchange. I know you're just the messenger with regard to this point, but what irks me is that while this style is time-tested for tech topics and sadly works, for real-world topics—at times—it comes off as a grotesque form of whataboutism that can feel utterly insensitive if not detached from reality. A great example is the recent news with USAID. No submission about this on HN made it to triple digit upvotes. The stakes in terms of human suffering are a few million dead people, per year. The dude who shuttered the agency was a product of the tech community, and our little debate club format here can't even handle discussing that news. It's shameful.

readthenotes1 2y ago

I'd have downvoted it for assuming I "support this shit".