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> Lam led with one second left on the clock That's also not strictly speaking true. The match was even at this point. Lam had previously been selected by /lott
by sokrates 14y ago
> Lam led with one second left on the clock
That's also not strictly speaking true. The match was even at this point. Lam had previously been selected by /lottery/ to win in the case of an even standing at the end of the one-minute-long extension to the match. So, she would have won had that second passed, but she was not leading.
- ColinWright 14y agoThis is your second comment that has details I've been unable to find elsewhere. I'm interested in trying to track down what actually happened here, and your sources seem better than mine, unless I'm just missing something. Can you provide some links for me to check out? Thanks in advance.
- sokrates 14y agoI'll see if I can dig up any German media write-ups with details. If so, I'll reply (also with a rough translation)
- sokrates 14y agohttp://www.abendblatt.de/sport/article2355249/Eklat-um-die-letzte-Sekunde-Heidemann-holt-Silber.html http://www.abendblatt.de/sport/article2355249/Eklat-um-die-l... > Csar ging zur Planche, befragte beide Fechterinnen, ob sie damit einverstanden seien, die Uhr nochmals auf 00:01 zurückzusetzen und das Gefecht ein letztes Mal freizugeben. Heidemann und Shin A Lam stimmten zu. Csar gab das Startsignal. Heidemann attackierte - und traf nach 0,84 Sekunden. Die Uhr zeigte 00:00. Rough translation: Csar walked up to the planche and asked both fencers whether they would agree to reset the clock to 00:01 and re-start the match one last time. Heidemann and Shin A Lam agreed. Csar gave the start signal. Heidemann attacked - and hit after 0.84 seconds. The clock showed 00:00. If you search for "lam 0,8 sekunden" on the German Google News, you can find similar articles. However, they usually are an exact copy of the article mentioned above. The real source of the above claim is probably the "Sport-Informations-Dienst (sid)", a German sports news agency that provides content to those publications. I haven't yet found any other primary sources with the exact time.
- ColinWright 14y agoThat's brilliant - thanks. It doesn't seem conclusive, because if the clock didn't get started, and the touch happened at 0.84, then the question is whether the delay was more than 0.16s, and further, why did the clock on the video still show 0:01, while the claim there is that the clock showed 00:00. And if the clock showed 00:00, wasn't the touch out of time? Completely unclear, but it's useful to have the extra information. Thanks again.
- sokrates 14y agoNo problem. My guess is that they round the displayed clock up instead of down, so 00:00 automatically means the end of the match, and any split second left shows 00:01 to let everyone know that it's not over yet.
- Foy 14y agoMore importantly, why doesn't the clock just show milliseconds too? This is an Olympic combat event... one second is a long time.
- mikeryan 14y agoView the video linked in this thread. They were tied 5/5
- ColinWright 14y agoGiven that if the scores remained as they were then player A would be declared the winner, then in some very real sense I would say that player A was in the lead. Semantics and interpretation. To me it's not really the point. To me, the lessons are about process, problems, how you deal with them, and then treating the people with respect.
- pbreit 14y agoIf you own the tie-breaker, you are clearly "leading".