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"It's not being used", except for nearly half of Google's traffic: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/stati

"It's not being used", except for nearly half of Google's traffic: https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html Disconnect your phone from Wi-Fi and visit https://ifconfig.co/ https://ifconfig.co/ . If you're a Verizon customer, it's probably going to show you an IPv6 address. It's huge, right now, today.

frollogaston 2y ago
"Depended on" is what I should have said. An ISP or website can be v4-only or support both, but it's not going to be v6-only.
- adgjlsfhk1 2y ago
  this isn't true. I know because at some point XFinity started dropping ipv6 connections for me and I noticed because a number of sites (forget which) were broken
  - frollogaston 2y ago
    What do you mean by dropping ipv6 connections, like dropping ipv6 packets? That's only an issue if you're using v6. I disabled ipv6 on my router years ago and have never had a problem just using v4.
- kstrauser 2y ago
  Fair. I bet that'll change soon though. My prediction is that it'll be a mobile-first game, like the next Pokemon Go sort of thing, that'll be IPv6-only.
  - frollogaston 2y ago
    I agree it would probably be something mobile-first that does it, since those carriers all(?) support v6.
  - gruez 2y ago
    Plenty of mobile users use wifi at home/work. Telling them to disable their ipv4-only wifi just to play your game is going to be a non-starter, especially when the cost of ipv4 address adds negligible cost to infrastructure. Is your CTO really going to massively increase user friction ("turn of your wifi to play!") just so try to save a few cents (comparatively speaking) on infra?
    - frollogaston 2y ago
      It could be in a country where people don't have home wifi.
      - jpc0 2y ago
        Like africa which does not have a shortage of V4 address and there is effectively no v6 rollout?
- genewitch 2y ago
  I ran an ipv6-only website because that's the only way I can have a publicly routeable address at home. Just as an anecdote.
cyberax 2y ago
There is not a single widely used service on the Internet that depends on IPv6 exclusively.
- frollogaston 2y ago
  I had to check if HackerNews even supports ipv6, apparently it only recently started: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39099065 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39099065
motorest 2y ago
> "It's not being used", except for nearly half of Google's traffic: One of the world's largest ISPs, Vodafone, is yet to support IPv6. What Google supports is irrelevant if your ISP can't handle the traffic.
- kstrauser 2y ago
  True, but irrelevant to my point. Whether a particular ISP supports doesn’t matter: it is being widely used by the rest of the world, to the point that it’s half of Google’s traffic.
  - motorest 2y ago
    > True, but irrelevant to my point. Vodafone's network is reported to handle around 20% of the world's traffic. It's not a random ISP. It's network does not support IPv6. It is how a big chunk of all internet users experience the internet. Claiming it doesn't matter in a discussion over IPv6 adoption rate is ludicrous.

frollogaston 2y ago

"Depended on" is what I should have said. An ISP or website can be v4-only or support both, but it's not going to be v6-only.

adgjlsfhk1 2y ago
this isn't true. I know because at some point XFinity started dropping ipv6 connections for me and I noticed because a number of sites (forget which) were broken
- frollogaston 2y ago
  What do you mean by dropping ipv6 connections, like dropping ipv6 packets? That's only an issue if you're using v6. I disabled ipv6 on my router years ago and have never had a problem just using v4.
kstrauser 2y ago
Fair. I bet that'll change soon though. My prediction is that it'll be a mobile-first game, like the next Pokemon Go sort of thing, that'll be IPv6-only.
- frollogaston 2y ago
  I agree it would probably be something mobile-first that does it, since those carriers all(?) support v6.
- gruez 2y ago
  Plenty of mobile users use wifi at home/work. Telling them to disable their ipv4-only wifi just to play your game is going to be a non-starter, especially when the cost of ipv4 address adds negligible cost to infrastructure. Is your CTO really going to massively increase user friction ("turn of your wifi to play!") just so try to save a few cents (comparatively speaking) on infra?
  - frollogaston 2y ago
    It could be in a country where people don't have home wifi.
    - jpc0 2y ago
      Like africa which does not have a shortage of V4 address and there is effectively no v6 rollout?
genewitch 2y ago
I ran an ipv6-only website because that's the only way I can have a publicly routeable address at home. Just as an anecdote.

cyberax 2y ago

There is not a single widely used service on the Internet that depends on IPv6 exclusively.

frollogaston 2y ago
I had to check if HackerNews even supports ipv6, apparently it only recently started: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39099065 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39099065

motorest 2y ago

> "It's not being used", except for nearly half of Google's traffic: One of the world's largest ISPs, Vodafone, is yet to support IPv6. What Google supports is irrelevant if your ISP can't handle the traffic.

kstrauser 2y ago
True, but irrelevant to my point. Whether a particular ISP supports doesn’t matter: it is being widely used by the rest of the world, to the point that it’s half of Google’s traffic.
- motorest 2y ago
  > True, but irrelevant to my point. Vodafone's network is reported to handle around 20% of the world's traffic. It's not a random ISP. It's network does not support IPv6. It is how a big chunk of all internet users experience the internet. Claiming it doesn't matter in a discussion over IPv6 adoption rate is ludicrous.