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(Context: I’m an IC and told my Manager multiple times that I’d quit if they ever make me a manager) If you truly believe that, please do yourself a favor and
by cscheid 2y ago
(Context: I’m an IC and told my
Manager multiple times that I’d quit if they ever make me a manager)
If you truly believe that, please do yourself a favor and read “The tyranny of structurelessness” to understand what a managerless place becomes. everyone and no one becomes a manager, and there’s no explicit avenue of recourse. There’s a good reason management arises. We can discuss good management vs bad management, but pretty fundamentally there’s no such thing as “no management”.
- rafaelmn 2y agoI read OP as change the management to change the culture, not remove it.
- duskwuff 2y agoI don't think OP was necessarily trying to imply "there should be no managers", but simply "I don't want to become a manager" - which is perfectly valid.
- Freedom2 2y agoI'm not entirely sure why when one person quits, the company becomes managerless?
- vkou 2y ago> There’s a good reason management arises. Look, you have me for the rest of your post, but let's not imagine that the kind of management we see in an orthodox corporation in the year 2025 is some kind of emergent grassroots property. It's a tool created by owners to exercise control over the people whose labour they own.
- consteval 2y agoFrom what I’ve seen flatter (not flat) company structures have less politics and a healthier culture. When you get into the 7, 8, 9 layer manager hierarchy at a software company is when things have really gone to shit