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The whole city of Lisbon is amazing. It's very underrated but worth a visit for sure.

by brabel 2y ago

lopis 2y ago
How is Lisbon underrated? It's completely, chocked full of tourists and wealthy expats, and practically devoid of permanent residents because no one else can afford to live there any more.
- regularjack 2y ago
  I agree with the sentiment, but it's very far from being devoid of permanent residents. That's maybe true for a couple of downtown neighborhoods, but definitely not true for the city as a whole.
  - andrewl-hn 2y ago
    Plus, many "wealthy expats" don't live in the city, preferring neighboring suburbs like Cascais or Sintra. The Lisbon proper is very dense, lacks greenery, and chokes in traffic, an interesting place to visit, but not to live in. Meanwhile, every single real estate developer / agent sets their prices incredibly high hoping to sell or rent out the property to those mythical "wealthy expats". I saw a stat somewhere that less than 0.2% of all real estate transactions in the country each year involve foreigners, and yet everyone blames them for high real estate prices.
    - mykowebhn 2y ago
      > lacks greenery Seriously? How about: - Avenida da Liberdade - The Botanical Garden in Principe Real - Parque Eduardo - The beautiful gardens around the Gulbenkian Museum - Jardim da Estrela - Tapada das Necessidades - Jardim do Principe Real and one of the prettiest urban neighborhood green spaces I've ever been to: Jardim Fialho de Almeida Edit: formatting
- brabel 2y ago
  It's the 64th most visited city in Europe (EDIT: not Europe, world): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_international_visitors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_internationa... I think it deserves to be higher.
epolanski 2y ago
Underrated under which metric? I would say it's rated highly by tourists and expats.
- Novosell 2y ago
  Underrated basically always means "I really like it but no one in my social circles has brought it up unprompted", in my experience. Really annoys me. Saw someone call the The Wild Robot, nominated for 3 Oscars, underrated the other day.

The whole city of Lisbon is amazing. It's very underrated but worth a visit for sure.

by brabel 2y ago

The whole city of Lisbon is amazing. It's very underrated but worth a visit for sure.

How is Lisbon underrated? It's completely, chocked full of tourists and wealthy expats, and practically devoid of permanent residents because no one else can afford to live there any more.

regularjack 2y ago
I agree with the sentiment, but it's very far from being devoid of permanent residents. That's maybe true for a couple of downtown neighborhoods, but definitely not true for the city as a whole.
- andrewl-hn 2y ago
  Plus, many "wealthy expats" don't live in the city, preferring neighboring suburbs like Cascais or Sintra. The Lisbon proper is very dense, lacks greenery, and chokes in traffic, an interesting place to visit, but not to live in. Meanwhile, every single real estate developer / agent sets their prices incredibly high hoping to sell or rent out the property to those mythical "wealthy expats". I saw a stat somewhere that less than 0.2% of all real estate transactions in the country each year involve foreigners, and yet everyone blames them for high real estate prices.
  - mykowebhn 2y ago
    > lacks greenery Seriously? How about: - Avenida da Liberdade - The Botanical Garden in Principe Real - Parque Eduardo - The beautiful gardens around the Gulbenkian Museum - Jardim da Estrela - Tapada das Necessidades - Jardim do Principe Real and one of the prettiest urban neighborhood green spaces I've ever been to: Jardim Fialho de Almeida Edit: formatting
brabel 2y ago
It's the 64th most visited city in Europe (EDIT: not Europe, world): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_international_visitors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_internationa... I think it deserves to be higher.

epolanski 2y ago

Underrated under which metric? I would say it's rated highly by tourists and expats.

Novosell 2y ago
Underrated basically always means "I really like it but no one in my social circles has brought it up unprompted", in my experience. Really annoys me. Saw someone call the The Wild Robot, nominated for 3 Oscars, underrated the other day.