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Man it was really hard to not contradict you in detail and start discussing politics! Some people don't think it's so dramatic, let's leave it at that. Also th

by sershe 2y ago

Man it was really hard to not contradict you in detail and start discussing politics! Some people don't think it's so dramatic, let's leave it at that. Also there are tons of places online to discuss politics. Maybe too many! there's no need to make everything about politics. One way to turn people against your opinion is to shove it in their face when they don't want it.

tpm 2y ago
> there's no need to make everything about politics I agree except this is a 'News' site where we discuss news. Occasionally there will be a lot of politics in the news that people want to discuss. Bannning that will diminish the value of this site.
- sershe 2y ago
  The rules that define what kind of site this is say if it belongs on news sites it doesn't belong here. This is about as much of a news site as facebook is a book site.
  - tpm 2y ago
    Let's be exact here: "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon." I'd say USA becoming a fascist dictatorship does qualify as an interesting new phenomenon, but YMMV of course.
    - sershe 2y ago
      Regardless of its merits it's a fringe opinion that most people disagree with. Every other news story (and a few more besides - microchipping! Pizzagate!) would be on topic by that standard, so we could discuss whether they have merit. The spirit of the rules is clearly against that. I have my own hobby horses that most people disagree with, even though as far as I am concerned they stand on much more solid definitional ground than "fascist dictatorship" - for example, wage taxation is forced labor, so any new policy could be discussed as an interesting new phenomenon of "govt forces people to do X, at gunpoint". But if I'd want to discuss the finer points of whether it's ok to force people to do X at gunpoint I'd go to reddit.

by sershe 2y ago

tpm 2y ago

> there's no need to make everything about politics I agree except this is a 'News' site where we discuss news. Occasionally there will be a lot of politics in the news that people want to discuss. Bannning that will diminish the value of this site.

sershe 2y ago
The rules that define what kind of site this is say if it belongs on news sites it doesn't belong here. This is about as much of a news site as facebook is a book site.
- tpm 2y ago
  Let's be exact here: "Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon." I'd say USA becoming a fascist dictatorship does qualify as an interesting new phenomenon, but YMMV of course.
  - sershe 2y ago
    Regardless of its merits it's a fringe opinion that most people disagree with. Every other news story (and a few more besides - microchipping! Pizzagate!) would be on topic by that standard, so we could discuss whether they have merit. The spirit of the rules is clearly against that. I have my own hobby horses that most people disagree with, even though as far as I am concerned they stand on much more solid definitional ground than "fascist dictatorship" - for example, wage taxation is forced labor, so any new policy could be discussed as an interesting new phenomenon of "govt forces people to do X, at gunpoint". But if I'd want to discuss the finer points of whether it's ok to force people to do X at gunpoint I'd go to reddit.