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I'm more shocked there really weren't any shocking revelation. It's pretty much what everyone expected. - Zuckerberg wants people to like him.. okay.. - Weird

I'm more shocked there really weren't any shocking revelation. It's pretty much what everyone expected. - Zuckerberg wants people to like him.. okay.. - Weird personal details about lingerie budgets.. an insinuation about Sandberg having some homosexual relationship.. eye roll - The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies (all the FANG don't want to hire moderators and want to solve everything with machines) - They tried to work with the chinese government to get in to China. okay I was expecting stuff like top VPs look at people's private messages willy nilly, or Zuckerberg makes sure supportive political condidates win in third world countries. Things that actually matter. How boring.

s_dev 2y ago
What about the allegations that Facebook is suppressing informating regarding the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestine? Is that an eye roll as well in your book or is it newsworthy?
- Traubenfuchs 2y ago
  It‘s good that they are preventing the spread of fake news and anti-Israel hate content. Pro Palestine propaganda is already incredibly pervasive and annoying anywhere you look online. There can be a news article about Dubai chocolate and Palestine brainwashed bots will comment „…ok but what about PALESTINE?“
  - Urahandystar 2y ago
    How would Palestine be able to afford bots?
    - Traubenfuchs 2y ago
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      - throwawayqqq11 2y ago
        I hope my fellow leftist spam at least some factual information about israels atrocities. Since you might not find them on facebook. And yes yes, i know what you want to reply: "but whatabout hamas". Do it :)
        damnitbuilds 2y ago
        When you support Hamas, you already lost the argument.
        Traubenfuchs 2y ago
        As a homosexual I am completely unable to emphasize with cultures and nationalities that kill my kind. Many of us think like that, but embedded in the „left and liberal“ groups we often are and the threat of violence from watermelons, we need to hide our real opinion. Though Hamas as argument is good enough. With the support they enjoy among Palestinians, a distinction between civilian and hamas fighter is generally not possible.
        thomassmith65 2y ago
        It's justified for gays to support Israel on the grounds that Israel is socially liberal (or that Palestinian society is illiberal, which it is). It's not so smart for gays to be cavalier about 'left and liberal' groups considering how recent and how tenuous any tolerance of homosexuality is within right-wing and conservative groups. That might be a horribly obvious and boring thing to write, but it's the sad truth.
    - gryzzly 2y ago
      heard of Iran once? or Qatar? or Russian propaganda machine?
    - briandear 2y ago
      Same way they afford rockets? UNRWA.
  - onemoresoop 2y ago
    Facebook is filled with russian propaganda or elon posts. Seems like facebook dont care and its business as usual with no regards to any externalities they cause.
- Muahaas 2y ago
  I would personally put that in the eye roll category. The problem is that pro-Palestine camp is a pretty active group of evangelists that inserts itself into every discussion and comments on unrelated posts. You have to moderate them to avoid alienating or fatiguing your normal users. A funny example is LinkedIn of all places. Personally, I constantly see pro-Palestine propaganda liked or shared from connections. Most of that content is demagoguery or outright lies. Has no place on a work-related so I also report it. I have no dog in this race but the content of the pro-Palestine crowd is simply low-quality.
thomassmith65 2y ago
The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies Most people set the bar higher than 'does he want to drown babies'.
- ruszki 2y ago
  I had an opportunity to talk about racism with a racist. He said that he was not racist because he didn’t want to kill people of color. He is the kind of person, who doesn’t go into a restaurant if there are non whites in it, even in the safest neighbourhood. Since then, I’m not sure at all about that. There are definitely a lot of racists, who don’t consider themselves as such. I’m not sure that they are not the majority. It’s quite possible that this can be generalised, and applied to this too.
  - thomassmith65 2y ago
    Yes. People tend to consider themselves fair a priori. So if a person has a bias against Armenians (just to pick a random group), she is likely to think "I know I'm fair, so if I don't like many Armenians, it must be because most Armenians are unlikable".
the-chitmonger 2y ago
It may be boring but we should continue to hold companies to a higher standard than excusing sexual harassment and social irresponsibility at global scale
aredox 2y ago
>- The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies (all the FANG don't want to hire moderators and want to solve everything with machines) Translation: "I am lucky not to be part of the group being exterminated, therefore I am comfortable to brush that under the rug"
damnitbuilds 2y ago
I concur. The whole thing was lame and whiny. But you'll be downvoted by the hopelessly woke here. As will I.
- swores 2y ago
  Oh those pesky people who want other people to behave like decent human beings rather than assholes. Bloody hopelessly woke!
  - lostmsu 2y ago
    "decent human beings" and "assholes" according to them. That's a huge distinction.
  - damnitbuilds 2y ago
    Oh look, a hateful woke person. You don't see that very often. Only every time someone calls them out on their demented racism and sexism. Thanks for bringing us Trump 2, by the way.

s_dev 2y ago

What about the allegations that Facebook is suppressing informating regarding the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestine? Is that an eye roll as well in your book or is it newsworthy?

Traubenfuchs 2y ago
It‘s good that they are preventing the spread of fake news and anti-Israel hate content. Pro Palestine propaganda is already incredibly pervasive and annoying anywhere you look online. There can be a news article about Dubai chocolate and Palestine brainwashed bots will comment „…ok but what about PALESTINE?“
- Urahandystar 2y ago
  How would Palestine be able to afford bots?
  - Traubenfuchs 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - throwawayqqq11 2y ago
      I hope my fellow leftist spam at least some factual information about israels atrocities. Since you might not find them on facebook. And yes yes, i know what you want to reply: "but whatabout hamas". Do it :)
      - damnitbuilds 2y ago
        When you support Hamas, you already lost the argument.
      - Traubenfuchs 2y ago
        As a homosexual I am completely unable to emphasize with cultures and nationalities that kill my kind. Many of us think like that, but embedded in the „left and liberal“ groups we often are and the threat of violence from watermelons, we need to hide our real opinion. Though Hamas as argument is good enough. With the support they enjoy among Palestinians, a distinction between civilian and hamas fighter is generally not possible.
        thomassmith65 2y ago
        It's justified for gays to support Israel on the grounds that Israel is socially liberal (or that Palestinian society is illiberal, which it is). It's not so smart for gays to be cavalier about 'left and liberal' groups considering how recent and how tenuous any tolerance of homosexuality is within right-wing and conservative groups. That might be a horribly obvious and boring thing to write, but it's the sad truth.
  - gryzzly 2y ago
    heard of Iran once? or Qatar? or Russian propaganda machine?
  - briandear 2y ago
    Same way they afford rockets? UNRWA.
- onemoresoop 2y ago
  Facebook is filled with russian propaganda or elon posts. Seems like facebook dont care and its business as usual with no regards to any externalities they cause.
Muahaas 2y ago
I would personally put that in the eye roll category. The problem is that pro-Palestine camp is a pretty active group of evangelists that inserts itself into every discussion and comments on unrelated posts. You have to moderate them to avoid alienating or fatiguing your normal users. A funny example is LinkedIn of all places. Personally, I constantly see pro-Palestine propaganda liked or shared from connections. Most of that content is demagoguery or outright lies. Has no place on a work-related so I also report it. I have no dog in this race but the content of the pro-Palestine crowd is simply low-quality.

thomassmith65 2y ago

The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies Most people set the bar higher than 'does he want to drown babies'.

ruszki 2y ago
I had an opportunity to talk about racism with a racist. He said that he was not racist because he didn’t want to kill people of color. He is the kind of person, who doesn’t go into a restaurant if there are non whites in it, even in the safest neighbourhood. Since then, I’m not sure at all about that. There are definitely a lot of racists, who don’t consider themselves as such. I’m not sure that they are not the majority. It’s quite possible that this can be generalised, and applied to this too.
- thomassmith65 2y ago
  Yes. People tend to consider themselves fair a priori. So if a person has a bias against Armenians (just to pick a random group), she is likely to think "I know I'm fair, so if I don't like many Armenians, it must be because most Armenians are unlikable".

the-chitmonger 2y ago

It may be boring but we should continue to hold companies to a higher standard than excusing sexual harassment and social irresponsibility at global scale

aredox 2y ago

>- The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies (all the FANG don't want to hire moderators and want to solve everything with machines) Translation: "I am lucky not to be part of the group being exterminated, therefore I am comfortable to brush that under the rug"

damnitbuilds 2y ago

I concur. The whole thing was lame and whiny. But you'll be downvoted by the hopelessly woke here. As will I.

swores 2y ago
Oh those pesky people who want other people to behave like decent human beings rather than assholes. Bloody hopelessly woke!
- lostmsu 2y ago
  "decent human beings" and "assholes" according to them. That's a huge distinction.
- damnitbuilds 2y ago
  Oh look, a hateful woke person. You don't see that very often. Only every time someone calls them out on their demented racism and sexism. Thanks for bringing us Trump 2, by the way.