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"Let's knock down social media's walled gardens..." Links to pay wall trying to get me to pay for some subscription service I've never heard of and would never

"Let's knock down social media's walled gardens..." Links to pay wall trying to get me to pay for some subscription service I've never heard of and would never want to sign up for sight unseen. mmmhmmm

biophysboy 2y ago
The financial times is well known and subscriptions are journalism's only viable model today
- wetpaws 2y ago
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- jwr 2y ago
  But it's not necessarily good hacker news material. We get links that do not work, publishers get free promotion without providing anything. We will say something about viable models, and then somebody will post an archive.org link, bypassing the paywall and the viable model. I flag links that do not work, not because I'm opposed to subscriptions (I subscribe to some online publications), but because I think Hacker News should only link to articles that are actually on the internet.
- dehrmann 2y ago
  Journalism, sure. But most people are happy with entertainment news. I'm a FT subscriber. I just know 99% of people aren't, and lots aren't even aware it exists or its reputation.
- bryan_w 2y ago
  If you have to tell people that it's well known, it's not well known.
  - nickthegreek 2y ago
    Just an internationally known 137 yr old news outlet that is ranked #3 for Finance news in web traffic... Not knowing about FT says alot more about the poster than FT.
hiddencost 2y ago
FT is one of the most prestigious journals going. This article is designed to be read by the elite, especially in Europe.
- saghm 2y ago
  So no walled gardens outside the castles, essentially?
dkh 2y ago
His thoughts and opinions are not related to FT's and so while the combo of his article title + a paywall might appear ironic, in reality it's just happenstance, with no deeper meaning or hypocrisy. The "walled gardens" that he and others speak about in this context do not refer to sites/apps that cost money, they have a massively different meaning. But perhaps it wouldn't be fair to expect you to know this if the paywall prevented you from reading the article. Fear not, now you can: https://archive.ph/4Vvms https://archive.ph/4Vvms
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biophysboy 2y ago

The financial times is well known and subscriptions are journalism's only viable model today

wetpaws 2y ago
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jwr 2y ago
But it's not necessarily good hacker news material. We get links that do not work, publishers get free promotion without providing anything. We will say something about viable models, and then somebody will post an archive.org link, bypassing the paywall and the viable model. I flag links that do not work, not because I'm opposed to subscriptions (I subscribe to some online publications), but because I think Hacker News should only link to articles that are actually on the internet.
dehrmann 2y ago
Journalism, sure. But most people are happy with entertainment news. I'm a FT subscriber. I just know 99% of people aren't, and lots aren't even aware it exists or its reputation.
bryan_w 2y ago
If you have to tell people that it's well known, it's not well known.
- nickthegreek 2y ago
  Just an internationally known 137 yr old news outlet that is ranked #3 for Finance news in web traffic... Not knowing about FT says alot more about the poster than FT.

hiddencost 2y ago

FT is one of the most prestigious journals going. This article is designed to be read by the elite, especially in Europe.

saghm 2y ago
So no walled gardens outside the castles, essentially?

dkh 2y ago

His thoughts and opinions are not related to FT's and so while the combo of his article title + a paywall might appear ironic, in reality it's just happenstance, with no deeper meaning or hypocrisy. The "walled gardens" that he and others speak about in this context do not refer to sites/apps that cost money, they have a massively different meaning. But perhaps it wouldn't be fair to expect you to know this if the paywall prevented you from reading the article. Fear not, now you can: https://archive.ph/4Vvms https://archive.ph/4Vvms

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