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Can Trump Arbitrarily Take Money from Anyone's Bank Account?
- ipython 2y agoMuch more detail available in the linked blog post, written by the author: https://www.crisesnotes.com/can-the-trump-administration-arbitrarily-take-money-from-anyones-bank-account/ https://www.crisesnotes.com/can-the-trump-administration-arb...
- throwaway5752 2y agoNot legally. They are attempting a number of illegal actions to see what they can get away with, though. That doesn't change that it is illegal. You can simply imagine what Rand Paul would say about it if the Biden administration did it if you think otherwise.
- toomuchtodo 2y agoIf they do it illegally, there’s nothing you’ll be able to do about it.
- outer_web 2y agoWhat about a lawsuit?
- toomuchtodo 2y agoThis administration has already told a court that they are above the law. A lawsuit would be meaningless. https://www.axios.com/2025/03/16/trump-white-house-defy-judge-deport-venezuelans https://www.axios.com/2025/03/16/trump-white-house-defy-judg... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43384730 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43384730
- outer_web 2y agoHas a court found that they are above the law?
- darthrupert 2y agoYes. Trump v. United States, 603 U.S. 593 (2024)
- outer_web 2y agoHah my fault for not being specific. He is certainly not criminally liable for such actions. But it's a frighteningly common misconception that SCOTUS ruled he could do anything and not have it reversed by the courts.
- hairofadog 2y agoThat's a misconception shared by POTUS, unfortunately.
- outer_web 2y agoEh,that is the narrative he is trying to project so that when the courts issue injunctions or rulings against him he can claim to be victimized. Or that he tried his best to fulfill a campaign promise that can't be accomplished via exective orders. Many such cases.
- Forgeties79 2y agoIf these narratives get him what he wants, what does it matter?
- outer_web 2y agoHow would the narratives get him what he wants?
- starkparker 2y agoArticle covers this; injunctive relief comes too late when the damage to trust in payment finality is already done by the act. When the bad actors own the enforcement mechanisms against acting badly, a slap on the wrist injunction probably feels good, not bad. Like it's proof what they're doing is having the intended effect, so they should continue doing it
- outer_web 2y agoYou're saying there's nothing to be accomplished with a lawsuit because the administration ignoring the law makes it meaningless?
- darthrupert 2y agoWouldn't that require a working judiciary system?
- maximinus_thrax 2y agoWho will enforce the court ruling and how?
- outer_web 2y agoCivil servants who themselves face liability for failing to uphold the law. This is why P2025 wants to replace them.
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- salawat 2y agoYes. The technical capability exists. It's been mostly locked behind due process, but with the willingness to throw that out the window, it can be done.