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That's good advice, but I mean what do you do when you get home? Now that your right to assemble has been effectively revoked, what's your next step?

s1artibartfast 2y ago
Plan a legal assembly, an economic protest, and write your legislator. Right to assemble is not a blank check for violent action, or even to assemble wherever and whenever your want.
- int_19h 2y ago
  The reason why these are legal is precisely because they are so ineffective.
BobaFloutist 2y ago
Come back the next day?
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> what do you do when you get home? Now that your right to assemble has been effectively revoked Your right to assembly remains. You just made a risk-adjustment decision about not participating in a riot. The correct thing to do is go home, regroup and join the protest leadership to help plan another protest where the hooliganism is kept in check.
- __MatrixMan__ 2y ago
  When deciding whether to pull the trigger on such a thing, what matters is whether it will make things worse, regardless of whether that worsening counts as correct behavior or not. Also, not being in Serbia myself I'm reluctant to make judgements from afar about what degree of hooliganism is justified in this case.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > what matters is whether it will make things worse, regardless of whether that worsening counts as correct behavior or not Correct. Escalating from peaceful to violent protest shouldn't (I'd argue cannot) be responsibly decided in the moment. If you went to a peaceful protest "that was starting to get a bit rowdy," the situation clearly changed from underneath you. Go home. Take stock. Decide if what you saw was random rioting or targeted violence. If the latter, decide if and how you can help and if it will make things better or worse. I'm struggling to imagine non-Hollywood scenarios where someone showing up to peacefully protest is useful when it effectively escalates to civil war.

s1artibartfast 2y ago

Plan a legal assembly, an economic protest, and write your legislator. Right to assemble is not a blank check for violent action, or even to assemble wherever and whenever your want.

int_19h 2y ago
The reason why these are legal is precisely because they are so ineffective.

BobaFloutist 2y ago

Come back the next day?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> what do you do when you get home? Now that your right to assemble has been effectively revoked Your right to assembly remains. You just made a risk-adjustment decision about not participating in a riot. The correct thing to do is go home, regroup and join the protest leadership to help plan another protest where the hooliganism is kept in check.

__MatrixMan__ 2y ago
When deciding whether to pull the trigger on such a thing, what matters is whether it will make things worse, regardless of whether that worsening counts as correct behavior or not. Also, not being in Serbia myself I'm reluctant to make judgements from afar about what degree of hooliganism is justified in this case.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > what matters is whether it will make things worse, regardless of whether that worsening counts as correct behavior or not Correct. Escalating from peaceful to violent protest shouldn't (I'd argue cannot) be responsibly decided in the moment. If you went to a peaceful protest "that was starting to get a bit rowdy," the situation clearly changed from underneath you. Go home. Take stock. Decide if what you saw was random rioting or targeted violence. If the latter, decide if and how you can help and if it will make things better or worse. I'm struggling to imagine non-Hollywood scenarios where someone showing up to peacefully protest is useful when it effectively escalates to civil war.