> it's absurd to claim it's "never" possible Absolutely correct. The problem is that Elon has been saying that for ten years and we're not really closer to it

> it's absurd to claim it's "never" possible Absolutely correct. The problem is that Elon has been saying that for ten years and we're not really closer to it being true. So, in the meantime, would it kill him to admit that he was wrong about lidar?