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Tänzer: The lovable web server framework for Tcl

66 points by Tomte 2y ago

teruakohatu 2y ago
This looks like a surprisingly nice web server framework. It is a pity that TCL Shell (tclsh) didn't become the default shell over bash. TCL was released before bash but I am unsure if tclsh was bundled with it at the time.
- BoingBoomTschak 2y ago
  Bourne shell compatibility is a killer feature after all. But I certainly prefer Tcl over PowerShell/rc/xonsh and others that didn't bother with this. If Tcl had fixed its exec (cf https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/424.md https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/424.md & https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/259.md https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/259.md), I think it could have really worked as a shell.
- _mlbt 2y ago
  I would love an alternate timeline where we got Tcl in the browser instead of JavaScript.
  - johnisgood 2y ago
    Oh my. :( I wish...
  - forinti 2y ago
    As much as I like TCL, I would much rather it was Lisp or Scheme on the browser.
doublerabbit 2y ago
Throwing out NaviServer too. A fork of AOLs old powerhouse aolserver which was a buy out from NaviSoft. NaviServer decided to go back to the original name. https://github.com/naviserver-project/naviserver https://github.com/naviserver-project/naviserver https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaviServer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaviServer https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/NaviServer https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/NaviServer
xantronix 2y ago
Hi there! Author here. I don't really have anything to say, other than, I am very happy to see the love. Thank you.
_blk 2y ago
Btw, Tänzer is German for "dancer."
- the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
  At least that makes more sense than löve.
  - hiAndrewQuinn 2y ago
    Are the rest of you not using the word love for your throwaway variables? I thought that's what we were referencing with that one
    - the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
      For context here: Löve is a well known Lua game library. I was assuming the ä here was inspired by that. The domain though of the project is in fact supposed to be called “Tänzer” should be “taenzer”.
      - xantronix 2y ago
        Thank you! I appreciate the vital feedback.
pandemic_region 2y ago
Not many people may know this, but in the $$$ F5 firewall appliances TCL must be used for scripting the appliance behaviour.

66 points by Tomte 2y ago

This looks like a surprisingly nice web server framework. It is a pity that TCL Shell (tclsh) didn't become the default shell over bash. TCL was released before bash but I am unsure if tclsh was bundled with it at the time.

BoingBoomTschak 2y ago
Bourne shell compatibility is a killer feature after all. But I certainly prefer Tcl over PowerShell/rc/xonsh and others that didn't bother with this. If Tcl had fixed its exec (cf https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/424.md https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/424.md & https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/259.md https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/259.md), I think it could have really worked as a shell.
_mlbt 2y ago
I would love an alternate timeline where we got Tcl in the browser instead of JavaScript.
- johnisgood 2y ago
  Oh my. :( I wish...
- forinti 2y ago
  As much as I like TCL, I would much rather it was Lisp or Scheme on the browser.

doublerabbit 2y ago

Throwing out NaviServer too. A fork of AOLs old powerhouse aolserver which was a buy out from NaviSoft. NaviServer decided to go back to the original name. https://github.com/naviserver-project/naviserver https://github.com/naviserver-project/naviserver https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaviServer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaviServer https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/NaviServer https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/NaviServer

xantronix 2y ago

Hi there! Author here. I don't really have anything to say, other than, I am very happy to see the love. Thank you.

_blk 2y ago

Btw, Tänzer is German for "dancer."

the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
At least that makes more sense than löve.
- hiAndrewQuinn 2y ago
  Are the rest of you not using the word love for your throwaway variables? I thought that's what we were referencing with that one
  - the_mitsuhiko 2y ago
    For context here: Löve is a well known Lua game library. I was assuming the ä here was inspired by that. The domain though of the project is in fact supposed to be called “Tänzer” should be “taenzer”.
    - xantronix 2y ago
      Thank you! I appreciate the vital feedback.

pandemic_region 2y ago

Not many people may know this, but in the $$$ F5 firewall appliances TCL must be used for scripting the appliance behaviour.