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An interesting question is if/when there will be big protests. Ignoring a judge is a breach of constitutional order, and if people don’t speak up for Venezuelan
by ckemere 2y ago
An interesting question is if/when there will be big protests. Ignoring a judge is a breach of constitutional order, and if people don’t speak up for Venezuelan “gang members”, it becomes normalized, and quickly can escalate. I think we’ve all been waiting to see how long it would take to get here (if ever). Now what next???
- barbazoo 2y agoPeople are too economically enslaved to mass protest.
- duxup 2y agoPeople do protest…
- j_maffe 2y agoCould people do a strike that would cripple key industries or cause massive disruption to the government?
- duxup 2y agoWould it matter to an administration that has no problems with government being crippled? Industries who are not in power?
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- wahnfrieden 2y agoFor a day or so
- barbazoo 2y agoIf it fits in the schedule of two jobs, kids, etc
- barbazoo 2y agoNot in a way that convinces the ruling class to change their ways.
- Aloisius 2y agoYou say that like historical general strikers were more economically independent than today.
- xyst 2y agoA Gaddafi-esque exit at the WH or that gaudy resort he loves playing golf at so much.
- j_maffe 2y agoI don't think protests will matter. Only if republican voters take issue then maybe some congressmen could take a stand. Currently the more reasonable hope is that the judicial branch escalates this to the supreme court.
- nadermx 2y agoThis poses an interesting legal question. Since the judge ruled once the plane was in international airspace, would the US have jurisdiction? Or would say mercantile laws or airspace laws apply making it a weird legal hack to deport these "gang members"?
- anon84873628 2y agoThe judge specifically said that he did not have jurisdiction over deportees who had already landed on foreign soil, but could order planes in the air to return.
- Terr_ 2y agoIf US law doesn't matter to US planes run by the US government, then... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_flights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_flights
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- gooseus 2y agoThere won't be a big protest over this because there is already too much fragmentation of protests and only so much organization and time, and also people are cowards. In the last two weeks I've been to 3 protests in the NYC area: - Stand with Ukraine - Stand for Science - Tesla Takedown In the same time there have been protest for Khalil and a protest against the entitlement cuts, as well as protests in support of Veterans. However, this (wrongful and illegal arrest/detention/deportation) _should_ be the biggest protest, because if Trump backed off all of the other things and was able to get away with normalizing this use of DoJ and federal law enforcement to disappear people into the legal system, then nobody will protest anything out of legitimate fear of being disappeared. My observation of most Americans protesting is that they are doing it for the social/emotional aspects and aren't doing it with the intent of putting themselves in any real risk... and I think what you'll see is that when things get REALLY serious, those people will say things like "I was out there from 2017 - 2024 and protests didn't do anything, I'm not going to risk my career/family/well-being/life anymore for nothing".
- kcplate 2y ago> There won't be a big protest over this because there is already too much fragmentation of protests and only so much organization and time, and also people are cowards. There won’t be a protest over this because the optics are bad. Democrats already learned their lesson that defending violent gang members doesn’t work in their favor because of the whole MS-13/“Animals” stuff back in 2019. There is simply no way to oppose this without looking sympathetic to murderous thugs.
- aaronrobinson 2y agoProtests are invasions