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I'm not the person you were replying to, but for many men it is more of the divorce issue rather than extracting resources during marriage. There are horror st

I'm not the person you were replying to, but for many men it is more of the divorce issue rather than extracting resources during marriage. There are horror stories where a wife divorces the man and gets the house, custody of the kids, child support, alimony, etc. Many men just opt to not get married for fear that might happen to them.

hombre_fatal 2y ago
Don't motte-and-bailey for them. They didn't just claim that divorces can have unfavorable results for men which is a trivial claim. They claimed birth rates are tumbling because women have attained the extractive power mentioned in their post and that, if left unchecked, human society will continue dying down... until all that's left is the sort of man that he likens to the venomous male octopus.
- seec 2y ago
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- ImJamal 2y ago
  It is the same issue though. Many people don't want to have kids unless they are married. They don't get married because of the issues I mentioned. Even if you ignore that, you may have to pay child support if the woman you slept with leaves you.
soco 2y ago
Is a pre-nup not solving exactly this problem? Or is maybe a pre-nup not a thing for various reasons - not known, not acceptable, not possible under local law...
- ImJamal 2y ago
  It depends. If you buy the home together after marriage, even if it was entirely the man's money, it can lead to the man losing the house. I don't think a prenup can exempt a man from child support or guarantee custody of the children. Also, asking for a prenup is not exactly the easiest thing. Can you imagine saying, hey I want to get married, quite possibly saying "till death do us part", but can you agree too this prenup for when we fail. Starting a marriage with the idea that you will fail doesn't seem great to me. I read that some politicians in a. state (don't remember which), were talking about allowing a couple to remove the right of a no fault divorce, only allow at fault divorces. I think if such a thing becomes a law, that would help boost a lot of confidence for men.

hombre_fatal 2y ago

Don't motte-and-bailey for them. They didn't just claim that divorces can have unfavorable results for men which is a trivial claim. They claimed birth rates are tumbling because women have attained the extractive power mentioned in their post and that, if left unchecked, human society will continue dying down... until all that's left is the sort of man that he likens to the venomous male octopus.

seec 2y ago
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ImJamal 2y ago
It is the same issue though. Many people don't want to have kids unless they are married. They don't get married because of the issues I mentioned. Even if you ignore that, you may have to pay child support if the woman you slept with leaves you.

soco 2y ago

Is a pre-nup not solving exactly this problem? Or is maybe a pre-nup not a thing for various reasons - not known, not acceptable, not possible under local law...

ImJamal 2y ago
It depends. If you buy the home together after marriage, even if it was entirely the man's money, it can lead to the man losing the house. I don't think a prenup can exempt a man from child support or guarantee custody of the children. Also, asking for a prenup is not exactly the easiest thing. Can you imagine saying, hey I want to get married, quite possibly saying "till death do us part", but can you agree too this prenup for when we fail. Starting a marriage with the idea that you will fail doesn't seem great to me. I read that some politicians in a. state (don't remember which), were talking about allowing a couple to remove the right of a no fault divorce, only allow at fault divorces. I think if such a thing becomes a law, that would help boost a lot of confidence for men.