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I have read the whole conversation and he just lives in an alternate reality. The EU has little benefits for the citizens of rich countries, expect for the domi
by seec 2y ago
I have read the whole conversation and he just lives in an alternate reality.
The EU has little benefits for the citizens of rich countries, expect for the dominant class, political and business, because they got more power in various different ways.
Outside of that, it is a net loss for your average person and in fact the current events show very well the lie of its usefulness.
Allegedly the EU is good because it gives its citizens a power comparable to the other big/rich countries like the US or China. But in fact, it is very weak on almost all fronts because it just built a dystopian bureaucratic system that only favored bureaucrat creation at the expense of everything else.
It has terrible defense/army, terrible industry, terrible commercial balance in general, terrible innovation (the main reason of no tech stuff there) and more I can't think about right now...
The only thing it has done "successfully" is legislate the shit out of everything, at great cost for everyone. And it didn't even allow to meet the idealistic goals (like the greenwashing and Germany's moronic "leadership" on that).
The trade war ongoing highlight the inadequacy of the EU and the reality is that their arsenal for retaliation is rather thin, without hurting their own population that is.
- sofixa 2y agoFYI Brexit proves you unquestionably wrong. If you think the EU doesn't work, you either haven't been paying attention or don't understand it. > It has terrible defense/army, terrible industry, terrible commercial balance in general, terrible innovation (the main reason of no tech stuff there Yep, you don't understand it. Just for starters to illustrate how wrong you are... the EU doesn't have a military nor defence. France does. Bulgaria does. They have vastly different priorities and budgets and interests and industries. The EU has nothing to do with that other than the occasional collaboration or common funding like right now. Also, innovation in EU countries is a very complex topic that again, if you're just dismissing as "terrible" because of EU legislation, you either don't understand the topic or haven't been paying attention. Things like market size and capital available impact the successfulness of newcomer innovator much more than the supposed lack of innovation many Americans who don't have any clue about what's happening decry.