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You can’t talk about kill rates in the 90s without talking about Nevermind. Well you can but it’s irresponsible. I’d argue nothing successful in rock came out

You can’t talk about kill rates in the 90s without talking about Nevermind. Well you can but it’s irresponsible. I’d argue nothing successful in rock came out over the next 20 years without somehow relating to nevermind.

decimalenough 2y ago
The article mentions Smells Like Teen Spirit and grunge.
grujicd 2y ago
Nevermind was among 7 albums released within 44 days: Metallica, Metallica Pearl Jam, Ten Guns N’ Roses, Use Your Illusion I Guns N’ Roses, Use Your Illusion II Red Hot Chili Peppers, Blood Sugar Sex Magik Soundgarden, Badmotorfinger Nirvana, Nevermind
leptons 2y ago
>I’d argue nothing successful in rock came out over the next 20 years without somehow relating to nevermind. You'll have to define what constitutes "rock", and what you mean by "came out" - just any "rock" album, or only new "rock" bands. You also have to define what "successful" means, to have this argument. Let's also not forget that in the late 1990's the world of music changed with Napster and music sharing, so "successful" in the 20 years after Nevermind came out may not be the same kind of "successful" in 1990 since people were often downloading music. I personally had no interest in Nirvana, but enjoyed "rock" music from many other bands. Cobain just came off as too depressing a figure, even when he was alive - and so I just didn't connect with their music at all.
progmetaldev 2y ago
Nirvana were influenced by some large bands that are still around to this day, like The Melvins. Nirvana just happened to have tweaked their sound and been in the right place at the right time. I do enjoy Nirvana, but bands like The Melvins have a far large catalog, and there were quite a few other bands that influenced Nirvana that kept going. Nirvana did often shout out these other bands, but people were too hooked on MTV back then, and weren't as willing to look up the bands they would mention.
- samstave 2y ago
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borgdefenser 2y ago
I am quite a Nirvana fan but I just think this is totally absurd. Nirvana's impact on the actual sound of music I would say is really not that much. It is really Sonic Youth that had a much bigger impact on the 90s sound than anyone. Including taking Nirvana on tour as an opener when they were complete nobodies. Even punk music barely felt the influence of Nirvana. I think you are confusing sound with MTV marketing. It is actually curious how much Nirvana and The Beatles are not reflected sound wise in modern music. Nothing close to say the way Bone Thugs-N-Harmony has influenced modern rap.
- vessenes 2y ago
  This essay says it pretty well I think: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/nevermind-20th-anniversary-252448/ https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/never... It’s not a referendum on their music at all, which I generally liked in the 90s and am generally tired of now. It’s about the economic success and the knock on effect that had on music production.

decimalenough 2y ago

The article mentions Smells Like Teen Spirit and grunge.

grujicd 2y ago

Nevermind was among 7 albums released within 44 days: Metallica, Metallica Pearl Jam, Ten Guns N’ Roses, Use Your Illusion I Guns N’ Roses, Use Your Illusion II Red Hot Chili Peppers, Blood Sugar Sex Magik Soundgarden, Badmotorfinger Nirvana, Nevermind

leptons 2y ago

>I’d argue nothing successful in rock came out over the next 20 years without somehow relating to nevermind. You'll have to define what constitutes "rock", and what you mean by "came out" - just any "rock" album, or only new "rock" bands. You also have to define what "successful" means, to have this argument. Let's also not forget that in the late 1990's the world of music changed with Napster and music sharing, so "successful" in the 20 years after Nevermind came out may not be the same kind of "successful" in 1990 since people were often downloading music. I personally had no interest in Nirvana, but enjoyed "rock" music from many other bands. Cobain just came off as too depressing a figure, even when he was alive - and so I just didn't connect with their music at all.

progmetaldev 2y ago

Nirvana were influenced by some large bands that are still around to this day, like The Melvins. Nirvana just happened to have tweaked their sound and been in the right place at the right time. I do enjoy Nirvana, but bands like The Melvins have a far large catalog, and there were quite a few other bands that influenced Nirvana that kept going. Nirvana did often shout out these other bands, but people were too hooked on MTV back then, and weren't as willing to look up the bands they would mention.

samstave 2y ago
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borgdefenser 2y ago

I am quite a Nirvana fan but I just think this is totally absurd. Nirvana's impact on the actual sound of music I would say is really not that much. It is really Sonic Youth that had a much bigger impact on the 90s sound than anyone. Including taking Nirvana on tour as an opener when they were complete nobodies. Even punk music barely felt the influence of Nirvana. I think you are confusing sound with MTV marketing. It is actually curious how much Nirvana and The Beatles are not reflected sound wise in modern music. Nothing close to say the way Bone Thugs-N-Harmony has influenced modern rap.

vessenes 2y ago
This essay says it pretty well I think: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/nevermind-20th-anniversary-252448/ https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/never... It’s not a referendum on their music at all, which I generally liked in the 90s and am generally tired of now. It’s about the economic success and the knock on effect that had on music production.