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The US is arguably more democratic than the EU and many of it's member states. And I am an EU citizen myself

by kiney 2y ago

immibis 2y ago
Explain.
- kiney 2y ago
  Democracy can't work without freedom of speech whis is seriously broken in mamy EU countries. In germany it's completely normal to get raided by police and all your digital devices stolen for posting pretty harmless memes or opinions.
throw0101d 2y ago
> The US is arguably more democratic than the EU and many of it's member states. By what metric? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Ranking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Ranking * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_indices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_indices * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
- kiney 2y ago
  Democracy can't work without freedom of speech whis is seriously broken in mamy EU countries. In germany it's completely normal to get raided by police and all your digital devices stolen for posting pretty harmless memes or opinions.
  - throw0101d 2y ago
    > Democracy can't work without freedom of speech whis is seriously broken in mamy EU countries. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index * https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/freedom-of-expression-index https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/freedom-of-expression-ind...
michpoch 2y ago
> The US is arguably more democratic Because they have elections? I always thought that when Americans say they’re a democracy they mean that in sort of propagandist way. Like, installing democracy as justification for military aggression. But it seems that now some people really believe it? The bi-partisan system sponsored by corporations, where candidates are vetted through the systems - it reminds me of the Chinese communism with two parties instead. Just compare it to Swiss democracy. When was the last time an candidate from an independent political party became a president in the USA?
- kiney 2y ago
  Switzerland is not EU

The US is arguably more democratic than the EU and many of it's member states. And I am an EU citizen myself

by kiney 2y ago

The US is arguably more democratic than the EU and many of it's member states. And I am an EU citizen myself

immibis 2y ago

Explain.

kiney 2y ago
Democracy can't work without freedom of speech whis is seriously broken in mamy EU countries. In germany it's completely normal to get raided by police and all your digital devices stolen for posting pretty harmless memes or opinions.

throw0101d 2y ago

> The US is arguably more democratic than the EU and many of it's member states. By what metric? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Ranking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Ranking * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_indices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_indices * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

kiney 2y ago
Democracy can't work without freedom of speech whis is seriously broken in mamy EU countries. In germany it's completely normal to get raided by police and all your digital devices stolen for posting pretty harmless memes or opinions.
- throw0101d 2y ago
  > Democracy can't work without freedom of speech whis is seriously broken in mamy EU countries. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index * https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/freedom-of-expression-index https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/freedom-of-expression-ind...

michpoch 2y ago

> The US is arguably more democratic Because they have elections? I always thought that when Americans say they’re a democracy they mean that in sort of propagandist way. Like, installing democracy as justification for military aggression. But it seems that now some people really believe it? The bi-partisan system sponsored by corporations, where candidates are vetted through the systems - it reminds me of the Chinese communism with two parties instead. Just compare it to Swiss democracy. When was the last time an candidate from an independent political party became a president in the USA?

kiney 2y ago
Switzerland is not EU