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I had been looking at Lenovos, but when i saw they charged 1k for 16gb of ram, when you could buy the same ram on newegg for 120, I stepped back quite a bit.

martey 14y ago
I think overcharging for RAM (or HDD/SSD) upgrades is one way that OEMs make more money off of their machines. I am a bit amused that this is the reason you give for reconsidering Lenovo when Apple (the maker of your current machine) is notorious for doing this: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/just-whats-so-special-about-apple-ram-to-justify-the-crazy-price/1095 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/just-whats-so-special-abo... One good thing about ThinkPads is that most of them do not have their RAM soldered to their motherboards, so it is easy to buy your own RAM on NewEgg and then augment or replace the machine's original memory.
- ramarevisited 14y ago
  I just did a comparison. A 16 GB upgrade with lenovo is $1,060 for DDR3 pc3 12800. With apple 16gb is 200 on the retina. Granted its soldered on. While I see your point, a priced out lenovo from the manufacturer to equal the specs i have right now is clost to 2.8k
  - shrughes 14y ago
    Who cares? Buy the RAM separately. That's what you do when buying Lenovos. With Lenovos, you get minimal RAM, minimal hard drive, maximum screen resolution, and Ultimate-N wifi, and then upgrade RAM and HDD separately.
andrewcooke 14y ago
well then i would suggest not buying that model. i keep editing this trying to find a non-snarky way of conveying the following: basically, you do still need to think a little bit. if you want to avoid thinking completely then you probably aren't going to enjoy linux. in general, thinkpads have good support for linux. i've had various x series laptops over the years and they've been very solid (more so than my partner's macs, where i need to keep replacing fans and power cables). for desktops, just build what you want. as long as you avoid strange or very new hardware it generally just works.

martey 14y ago

I think overcharging for RAM (or HDD/SSD) upgrades is one way that OEMs make more money off of their machines. I am a bit amused that this is the reason you give for reconsidering Lenovo when Apple (the maker of your current machine) is notorious for doing this: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/just-whats-so-special-about-apple-ram-to-justify-the-crazy-price/1095 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/just-whats-so-special-abo... One good thing about ThinkPads is that most of them do not have their RAM soldered to their motherboards, so it is easy to buy your own RAM on NewEgg and then augment or replace the machine's original memory.

ramarevisited 14y ago
I just did a comparison. A 16 GB upgrade with lenovo is $1,060 for DDR3 pc3 12800. With apple 16gb is 200 on the retina. Granted its soldered on. While I see your point, a priced out lenovo from the manufacturer to equal the specs i have right now is clost to 2.8k
- shrughes 14y ago
  Who cares? Buy the RAM separately. That's what you do when buying Lenovos. With Lenovos, you get minimal RAM, minimal hard drive, maximum screen resolution, and Ultimate-N wifi, and then upgrade RAM and HDD separately.

andrewcooke 14y ago

well then i would suggest not buying that model. i keep editing this trying to find a non-snarky way of conveying the following: basically, you do still need to think a little bit. if you want to avoid thinking completely then you probably aren't going to enjoy linux. in general, thinkpads have good support for linux. i've had various x series laptops over the years and they've been very solid (more so than my partner's macs, where i need to keep replacing fans and power cables). for desktops, just build what you want. as long as you avoid strange or very new hardware it generally just works.