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Not every software project needs the mentality you want to stamp on it. Most software in the world is boring, stagnant, legacy code. Maybe it was 'hip' one time

Not every software project needs the mentality you want to stamp on it. Most software in the world is boring, stagnant, legacy code. Maybe it was 'hip' one time, no one cares... that's the reason we have tons of COBOL still running around... I am not here to tell you what we SHOULD do. Not to tell you who SHOULD get a job. My point is to tell you that some people, in this crazy world, want to do some work, and some of that work is not fancy, and for that they get a special place in the current environment.

mrcsharp 2y ago
> My point is to tell you that some people, in this crazy world, want to do some work, and some of that work is not fancy, and for that they get a special place in the current environment. And this is fine. It is good to recognize this and build around it. My comment and my annoyance is with the idea that the government is a good place to act as a, and I mean no offense, dumping ground for such people. The reputation of government jobs being very stable attracts such people and they then form the majority and things stagnates and nothing improves because there is no will. To be clear, I am not saying every government department should be a copy of google in how they work and hire. But a balance needs to be struck between keeping government departments stable and striving to trim the fat and improve.
- archagon 2y ago
  > The reputation of government jobs being very stable attracts such people and they then form the majority and things stagnates and nothing improves because there is no will. This is substantiated entirely by feels. Do you actually know any government workers?
  - mrcsharp 2y ago
    I'm only allowed an opinion on governments and government jobs if I personally know government workers? Do you know what "reputation" actually means?
    - archagon 2y ago
      Can you discern between genuine reputation and conservative propaganda?
jghn 2y ago
> Most software in the world is boring, stagnant, legacy code Honestly as I get older I find myself starting to look to that world in a more appealing light. Call it the tech version of Barrista FIRE but there's a certain appeal to getting a job crunching boring ass enterprise Java for some stupid company, getting a decent wage (relative to the rest of the country, not tech in general) and reasonable benefits.

mrcsharp 2y ago

> My point is to tell you that some people, in this crazy world, want to do some work, and some of that work is not fancy, and for that they get a special place in the current environment. And this is fine. It is good to recognize this and build around it. My comment and my annoyance is with the idea that the government is a good place to act as a, and I mean no offense, dumping ground for such people. The reputation of government jobs being very stable attracts such people and they then form the majority and things stagnates and nothing improves because there is no will. To be clear, I am not saying every government department should be a copy of google in how they work and hire. But a balance needs to be struck between keeping government departments stable and striving to trim the fat and improve.

archagon 2y ago
> The reputation of government jobs being very stable attracts such people and they then form the majority and things stagnates and nothing improves because there is no will. This is substantiated entirely by feels. Do you actually know any government workers?
- mrcsharp 2y ago
  I'm only allowed an opinion on governments and government jobs if I personally know government workers? Do you know what "reputation" actually means?
  - archagon 2y ago
    Can you discern between genuine reputation and conservative propaganda?

jghn 2y ago

> Most software in the world is boring, stagnant, legacy code Honestly as I get older I find myself starting to look to that world in a more appealing light. Call it the tech version of Barrista FIRE but there's a certain appeal to getting a job crunching boring ass enterprise Java for some stupid company, getting a decent wage (relative to the rest of the country, not tech in general) and reasonable benefits.