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"Small increases in foreign aid could go a long way" Unfortunately, his graph of polio results would indicate the opposite. It's similar, in my mind, to schoo

"Small increases in foreign aid could go a long way" Unfortunately, his graph of polio results would indicate the opposite. It's similar, in my mind, to school spending in Chicago and Baltimore correlates to educational outcomes: When the problem needs both a systemic change and broad-based endemic change, more money is not necessarily the answer. (For Afghanistan/Pakistan, it's to counter the anti-vaxx narratives that caused the program to stall out. For those school systems, it may start with food and shelter security for students)

gcanyon 2y ago
That polio graph is depressingly flat for the past quarter century :-(
rahimnathwani 2y ago
Adding more money to government-run K–12 education can sometimes work against meaningful reform. Increased funding typically grows the existing system: hiring more staff, expanding departments, and creating additional layers of bureaucracy. More people come to rely on the status quo for their livelihood, which can reduce their willingness to support or even consider transformative changes.
- WalterBright 2y ago
  Funding for education in America has increased by leaps and bounds, but K-12 educational attainment hasn't budged.
  - giraffe_lady 2y ago
    It about doubled over half a century. For comparison inflation over that period was 410% or something like that. So idk, it's bigger than it was, it's hard to say whether it's bigger than it should be. I probably wouldn't describe it as dramatically as you have but that's often the case between us with public services I think.
    - WalterBright 2y ago
      In WA state, per student spending has way, way outpaced inflation.
      - giraffe_lady 2y ago
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        AlexeyBelov 2y ago
        That's such a great response to Walter's comments. Useful in almost every thread, no joke.
        WalterBright 2y ago
        Ok giraffe_lady: Google "Inflation adjusted per-student spending in washington state schools over time" produces: "since 2012, Washington state public school funding has increased 39 percent (adjusted for inflation), rising from $13,775 per student in 2012 to $19,163 per student in 2024, but the level of student learning has not improved."
    - Straw 2y ago
      See https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/09/considerations-on-cost-disease/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/09/considerations-on-cost... Educational spending per pupil has gone up in real terms, by about 2.5x over 40 years. This is already inflation adjusted so there isn't any comparison to the inflation rate. I'd say a 2.5x increase is pretty dramatic!
      - giraffe_lady 2y ago
        I'm not "seeing" a neo-segregationist about school funding policy lol nice try though. But anyway hasn't the GDP and accumulated wealth of the nation increased much more over that length of time? How much of that new wealth is it appropriate to spend on education?
        2y ago

gcanyon 2y ago

That polio graph is depressingly flat for the past quarter century :-(

rahimnathwani 2y ago

Adding more money to government-run K–12 education can sometimes work against meaningful reform. Increased funding typically grows the existing system: hiring more staff, expanding departments, and creating additional layers of bureaucracy. More people come to rely on the status quo for their livelihood, which can reduce their willingness to support or even consider transformative changes.

WalterBright 2y ago
Funding for education in America has increased by leaps and bounds, but K-12 educational attainment hasn't budged.
- giraffe_lady 2y ago
  It about doubled over half a century. For comparison inflation over that period was 410% or something like that. So idk, it's bigger than it was, it's hard to say whether it's bigger than it should be. I probably wouldn't describe it as dramatically as you have but that's often the case between us with public services I think.
  - WalterBright 2y ago
    In WA state, per student spending has way, way outpaced inflation.
    - giraffe_lady 2y ago
      [flagged]
      - AlexeyBelov 2y ago
        That's such a great response to Walter's comments. Useful in almost every thread, no joke.
      - WalterBright 2y ago
        Ok giraffe_lady: Google "Inflation adjusted per-student spending in washington state schools over time" produces: "since 2012, Washington state public school funding has increased 39 percent (adjusted for inflation), rising from $13,775 per student in 2012 to $19,163 per student in 2024, but the level of student learning has not improved."
  - Straw 2y ago
    See https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/09/considerations-on-cost-disease/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/09/considerations-on-cost... Educational spending per pupil has gone up in real terms, by about 2.5x over 40 years. This is already inflation adjusted so there isn't any comparison to the inflation rate. I'd say a 2.5x increase is pretty dramatic!
    - giraffe_lady 2y ago
      I'm not "seeing" a neo-segregationist about school funding policy lol nice try though. But anyway hasn't the GDP and accumulated wealth of the nation increased much more over that length of time? How much of that new wealth is it appropriate to spend on education?
      - 2y ago