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How do you protect people visiting or participating in YC from ICE? There have been two dozen stories of random tourists being disappeared for no good reason fr

How do you protect people visiting or participating in YC from ICE? There have been two dozen stories of random tourists being disappeared for no good reason from all over the US. Given that the policy is in the very early stages of implementation we can expect those numbers to reach the hundreds, thousands and tens of thousands in the next few months.

worik 2y ago
> There have been two dozen stories of random tourists being disappeared for no good reason from all over the US. Really? That is frightening. I plan to be a tourist in the USA within a decade. Can you expand on that?
- Alupis 2y ago
  It's BS. Random tourists aren't being "disappeared for no good reason". A "tourist" that overstayed by 2 years without applying for a Visa and/or started working here are being deported back to their home nation - in accordance with the law. There's a tremendous amount of scaremongering, fearmongering, and misinformation being thrown about currently. Majority of it is very much over stated hyperbole.
  - gm678 2y ago
    > Canadian woman put in chains, detained by ICE after entering San Diego border > She said the officer refused to allow her to go back to Mexico and ordered her to be detained. She was kept in a cold room at the border by CBP before being arrested by ICE, who placed her at the Otay Mesa Detention Center. Mooney claimed in the middle of the night she, along with a group of 30 other women, was rounded up to get transferred to a facility in Arizona. CBP wouldn’t tell Team 10 the reason for Mooney’s detention, citing privacy restrictions. https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/never-seen-anything-so-inhumane-canadian-woman-put-in-chains-detained-by-ice-after-entering-san-diego-border https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/never-seen-anything-s... > A German tourist detained by US immigration authorities is due to be deported back to Germany on Tuesday after spending more than six weeks in detention, including eight days in solitary confinement. Both Germans were held at the Otay Mesa Detention Center, a prison in San Diego, California. Brösche and Lofving had attempted to enter the US from Tijuana in Mexico on 25 January. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/11/german-tourists-ordeal-reportedly-ending-returned-from-us-detention https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/11/german-tourist...
    - Alupis 2y ago
      If you believe that's the entire story - walked across the border was arrested - then I have a bridge to sell you...
      - acdha 2y ago
        If you were right, they could easily clear the record by actually charging her. In several of the cases, they held people for extended periods rather than letting them leave the country which they really shouldn’t be doing if they don’t have enough evidence for at least one charge.
        Alupis 2y ago
        The linked articles have no information in them, except a sob story told through one perspective. For all we know, the US was coordinating extradition or release into their home country. A person attempting to illegally crossing the border (such as the two in the article) have committed a crime and could be held on that alone - yet they were released back to their home country. Seems like a pretty good ending for them, unless you are advocating they should be charged and imprisoned here for longer?
        wrboyce 2y ago
        What sort of fucking shithole backwards country locks people up for weeks (including over a week in solitary!) for arriving with an invalid visa? If you think that is a proportional response you are a nasty, nasty person.
        ignotus02 2y ago
        One that has individuals in government with a history advocating for private prisons where most undocumented immigrants are housed. 6 weeks probably leads to some solid profits for the bottom line. Solitary is probably a bonus charge.
        worik 2y ago
  - lazyasciiart 2y ago
    A British tourist has been in immigration detention for weeks after she was accused of “working for room and board” by doing some household chores while staying with a family in Portland. https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article301877574.html https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article301877574.h...
  - atoav 2y ago
    Sources say otherwise: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/11/german-tourists-ordeal-reportedly-ending-returned-from-us-detention https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/11/german-tourist...
    - atoav 2y ago
      https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2025-03-14/green-card-holder-from-new-hampshire-interrogated-at-logan-airport-detained https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2025-03-14/green-card-holder-fr... > Senior described Schmidt being “violently interrogated” at Logan Airport for hours, and being stripped naked, put in a cold shower by two officials, and being put back onto a chair. > She said Schmidt told her immigration agents pressured him to give up his green card. She said he was placed on a mat in a bright room with other people at the airport, with little food or water, suffered sleep deprivation, and was denied access to his medication for anxiety and depression.
  - pacomerh 2y ago
    I wish it was just deporting back, putting in them in inhumane conditions is whats happening now. This admin is fcked up. No misinformation its happening

worik 2y ago

> There have been two dozen stories of random tourists being disappeared for no good reason from all over the US. Really? That is frightening. I plan to be a tourist in the USA within a decade. Can you expand on that?

Alupis 2y ago
It's BS. Random tourists aren't being "disappeared for no good reason". A "tourist" that overstayed by 2 years without applying for a Visa and/or started working here are being deported back to their home nation - in accordance with the law. There's a tremendous amount of scaremongering, fearmongering, and misinformation being thrown about currently. Majority of it is very much over stated hyperbole.
- gm678 2y ago
  > Canadian woman put in chains, detained by ICE after entering San Diego border > She said the officer refused to allow her to go back to Mexico and ordered her to be detained. She was kept in a cold room at the border by CBP before being arrested by ICE, who placed her at the Otay Mesa Detention Center. Mooney claimed in the middle of the night she, along with a group of 30 other women, was rounded up to get transferred to a facility in Arizona. CBP wouldn’t tell Team 10 the reason for Mooney’s detention, citing privacy restrictions. https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/never-seen-anything-so-inhumane-canadian-woman-put-in-chains-detained-by-ice-after-entering-san-diego-border https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/never-seen-anything-s... > A German tourist detained by US immigration authorities is due to be deported back to Germany on Tuesday after spending more than six weeks in detention, including eight days in solitary confinement. Both Germans were held at the Otay Mesa Detention Center, a prison in San Diego, California. Brösche and Lofving had attempted to enter the US from Tijuana in Mexico on 25 January. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/11/german-tourists-ordeal-reportedly-ending-returned-from-us-detention https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/11/german-tourist...
  - Alupis 2y ago
    If you believe that's the entire story - walked across the border was arrested - then I have a bridge to sell you...
    - acdha 2y ago
      If you were right, they could easily clear the record by actually charging her. In several of the cases, they held people for extended periods rather than letting them leave the country which they really shouldn’t be doing if they don’t have enough evidence for at least one charge.
      - Alupis 2y ago
        The linked articles have no information in them, except a sob story told through one perspective. For all we know, the US was coordinating extradition or release into their home country. A person attempting to illegally crossing the border (such as the two in the article) have committed a crime and could be held on that alone - yet they were released back to their home country. Seems like a pretty good ending for them, unless you are advocating they should be charged and imprisoned here for longer?
        wrboyce 2y ago
        What sort of fucking shithole backwards country locks people up for weeks (including over a week in solitary!) for arriving with an invalid visa? If you think that is a proportional response you are a nasty, nasty person.
        ignotus02 2y ago
        One that has individuals in government with a history advocating for private prisons where most undocumented immigrants are housed. 6 weeks probably leads to some solid profits for the bottom line. Solitary is probably a bonus charge.
        worik 2y ago
- lazyasciiart 2y ago
  A British tourist has been in immigration detention for weeks after she was accused of “working for room and board” by doing some household chores while staying with a family in Portland. https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article301877574.html https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article301877574.h...
- atoav 2y ago
  Sources say otherwise: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/11/german-tourists-ordeal-reportedly-ending-returned-from-us-detention https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/11/german-tourist...
  - atoav 2y ago
    https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2025-03-14/green-card-holder-from-new-hampshire-interrogated-at-logan-airport-detained https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2025-03-14/green-card-holder-fr... > Senior described Schmidt being “violently interrogated” at Logan Airport for hours, and being stripped naked, put in a cold shower by two officials, and being put back onto a chair. > She said Schmidt told her immigration agents pressured him to give up his green card. She said he was placed on a mat in a bright room with other people at the airport, with little food or water, suffered sleep deprivation, and was denied access to his medication for anxiety and depression.
- pacomerh 2y ago
  I wish it was just deporting back, putting in them in inhumane conditions is whats happening now. This admin is fcked up. No misinformation its happening