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Yeah, this is much better than the numerous suburbs without sidewalks (such a weird thing from a European perspective) but that country road with ample green sp

Yeah, this is much better than the numerous suburbs without sidewalks (such a weird thing from a European perspective) but that country road with ample green space left and right? It's fine. Would benefit from sidewalks and bike lane of course, but the author makes it sound like there is a steep cliff left and right of the road.

aleph_minus_one 2y ago
> Yeah, this is much better than the numerous suburbs without sidewalks (such a weird thing from a European perspective) As children in such a situation, we would have a lot of fun as pedestrians to be a nuisance to the cars that drive on the road, too. :-) Having this perspective, I rather think that the reason why sidewalks are built is because of the complaints of car drivers.
- ghaff 2y ago
  As someone who has done a bunch of long distance walks in the UK, I’ve encountered any number of relatively rural or small town roads with no shoulders along walls or hedgerows that are at least as scary as a pedestrian as anything I’ve encountered in the US.
  - gizajob 2y ago
    And yet you’re still with us. Jumping onto the wall or into a hedge is part of the fun.
    - ghaff 2y ago
      It's not very safe if you can't get off a curvy road with no shoulder, especially in poor visibility. You're probably OK as a bet as a sometimes thing but not something I'd, have especially a kid, do on a daily basis. One reason I didn't learn to ride a bike as a kid because that basically described the road our house was on and fatalities associated with kids riding bikes wasn't rare.
    - mitthrowaway2 2y ago
      The ones who aren't still with us don't post comments on HN anymore.
      - ghaff 2y ago
        Yeah, "I didn't die taking a jump in a wingsuit" isn't actually a recommendation that's a safe thing to do. Or, hey, plenty of people survived climbing K2.

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Yeah, this is much better than the numerous suburbs without sidewalks (such a weird thing from a European perspective) but that country road with ample green sp

by danielbln 2y ago

aleph_minus_one 2y ago
> Yeah, this is much better than the numerous suburbs without sidewalks (such a weird thing from a European perspective) As children in such a situation, we would have a lot of fun as pedestrians to be a nuisance to the cars that drive on the road, too. :-) Having this perspective, I rather think that the reason why sidewalks are built is because of the complaints of car drivers.
- ghaff 2y ago
  As someone who has done a bunch of long distance walks in the UK, I’ve encountered any number of relatively rural or small town roads with no shoulders along walls or hedgerows that are at least as scary as a pedestrian as anything I’ve encountered in the US.
  - gizajob 2y ago
    And yet you’re still with us. Jumping onto the wall or into a hedge is part of the fun.
    - ghaff 2y ago
      It's not very safe if you can't get off a curvy road with no shoulder, especially in poor visibility. You're probably OK as a bet as a sometimes thing but not something I'd, have especially a kid, do on a daily basis. One reason I didn't learn to ride a bike as a kid because that basically described the road our house was on and fatalities associated with kids riding bikes wasn't rare.
    - mitthrowaway2 2y ago
      The ones who aren't still with us don't post comments on HN anymore.
      - ghaff 2y ago
        Yeah, "I didn't die taking a jump in a wingsuit" isn't actually a recommendation that's a safe thing to do. Or, hey, plenty of people survived climbing K2.