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I could rave on a lot about when this bit of news first started to gain traction here in Australia was in reality a zombie sheep grooming effort by a certain cr

I could rave on a lot about when this bit of news first started to gain traction here in Australia was in reality a zombie sheep grooming effort by a certain crowd here in Australia. But instead: (a) Spy satellites exist, the US in fact has (I suppose it's not been defunded ...) a branch of intelligence that pours over their live satellite images all day long for defence and security purposes (b) There has been an agreement to share intelligence data (obviously limited in some cases) in place between the US and Australia (c) It's a fair bet those monitoring the satellite data have a good idea where a large fleet of naval ships are at any given moment. (d) Data would have been shared with Australian Intelligence community in a timely fashion. I was saddened to hear the meowing by one particular Australian tv media outlet, once most people here would have understood the govt can't say much until they've been officially advised, this instance it was an airline pilot prior to any communication from China. By and large it was a non event, just some people have an interest to sabre rattle, groom the susceptible part of the population to their own ends (indirect prod ensure people should elect a new govt that would prostrate themselves and hail King Trump,) as well as trying to convince the greater population that their govt should be spending their budget on better - eh expensive weapons as that is more important. Better biosecurity, food security, more small naval ships makes a heck of a lot more sense than a few very very expensive submarines that (sitting still) at the moment can sort of hide from spy satellites. P.S. Almost the first thing the PM here when asked about it was to downplay the histrionic questions, was to point out the fact Australian Navy had just participated in war games close to China.

jfengel 2y ago
Zombie sheep grooming?
- anenefan 2y ago
  Yeah zombie / sheep grooming - it's a personal term I like to use, being blunt and to the point of what some media areas (including social media) are doing / attempting to do ... and not by accident. Yes there's brain washing, and then there's the same at a subtle level. More often what I see here, the grooming is sophisticated but most importantly constant in regard to the news feed. The sophisticated efforts flies under the radar for most ordinary folk, any irregularity dismissed by rational thinkers as just poorly researched or just biased for whatever reason. Sometimes efforts do not rely on craftiness, and the news source relies on just loudly trumpeting the cheery picked facts that sit well with the agenda - or simply omit facts or entire news items that stomps on or contradicts their most recent campaign. The folks who have already latched onto a baseless idea which is being contradicted by science or merely a simple thought exercise seem to be most prone to grooming. The end point seem to be shutting down any questioning of the agenda they, by way of the media in their pocket, are pushing. In Australia this story got quite unimportant once the same grooming areas, found their privates caught up in new reporting on the biggest bomb plot ever that to a critical thinker about ten seconds in seemed just a bit too contrived ... alas it gave them a very good platform and they'd been loudly drumming it up as real big bad and super important ... oops total hoax. I probably miss some of it, but for a some of the subtle grooming efforts, I have a couple of family members more often on different ends of the political spectrum that are best described as barometers. BTW they're not that whacked -- for instance both happy to acknowledge climate change is happening. [Mind notable climate change in my locale is due more to the very big heat bubble that has recently (last 2 or 3 decades) formed from the mid to eastern edges of the large expanse of open pit coal mines inland - the 100 years plus history of summer inland storms that used to just travel west to east, is now at odds with current local storm movement with most instead diverting north and south to the coast.]

jfengel 2y ago

Zombie sheep grooming?

anenefan 2y ago
Yeah zombie / sheep grooming - it's a personal term I like to use, being blunt and to the point of what some media areas (including social media) are doing / attempting to do ... and not by accident. Yes there's brain washing, and then there's the same at a subtle level. More often what I see here, the grooming is sophisticated but most importantly constant in regard to the news feed. The sophisticated efforts flies under the radar for most ordinary folk, any irregularity dismissed by rational thinkers as just poorly researched or just biased for whatever reason. Sometimes efforts do not rely on craftiness, and the news source relies on just loudly trumpeting the cheery picked facts that sit well with the agenda - or simply omit facts or entire news items that stomps on or contradicts their most recent campaign. The folks who have already latched onto a baseless idea which is being contradicted by science or merely a simple thought exercise seem to be most prone to grooming. The end point seem to be shutting down any questioning of the agenda they, by way of the media in their pocket, are pushing. In Australia this story got quite unimportant once the same grooming areas, found their privates caught up in new reporting on the biggest bomb plot ever that to a critical thinker about ten seconds in seemed just a bit too contrived ... alas it gave them a very good platform and they'd been loudly drumming it up as real big bad and super important ... oops total hoax. I probably miss some of it, but for a some of the subtle grooming efforts, I have a couple of family members more often on different ends of the political spectrum that are best described as barometers. BTW they're not that whacked -- for instance both happy to acknowledge climate change is happening. [Mind notable climate change in my locale is due more to the very big heat bubble that has recently (last 2 or 3 decades) formed from the mid to eastern edges of the large expanse of open pit coal mines inland - the 100 years plus history of summer inland storms that used to just travel west to east, is now at odds with current local storm movement with most instead diverting north and south to the coast.]