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I wouldn't be so sure considering what's happening with federal govt offices in the US right now..

by dartharva 2y ago

ac-swe 2y ago
state & local are always options
- giantg2 2y ago
  Government adjacent jobs with NGOs that are not federal government funded might also be options.
  - seanw444 2y ago
    A lot of NGOs are government funded, just through multiple layers of indirection, so they can claim they aren't.
- pelagicAustral 2y ago
  yeah... There is always a niche in government. Plus, I haven't heard of many layoffs affecting software teams in government. Some people are so deeply rooted in their specific concerns that taking them out of a codebase is borderline like cutting the wrong cable on a bomb.
  - kaikai 2y ago
    They shut down 18f, laying off the entire team.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  They also in danger now. Red states are trying to implement mini-DOGEs and all states have to rethink their budgets with the federal government cutting back.
Onawa 2y ago
Yep, I'm a federal contractor working in NIH as a data scientist, and completely agree with the above comment. Before November, I would have said the same thing as the parent comment. After January 20th, everyone who is left is currently looking for backups in case they get laid off. Gov and fed contractor positions used to be the most stable jobs you could get. Now, they are just as uncertain as industry jobs. It's extremely unfortunate.
- pelagicAustral 2y ago
  Sorry to hear... I hope this situation gets sorted sooner rather than later.
- dgfitz 2y ago
  Defense contractors most likely do not share the same sentiment.
- not2b 2y ago
  I'd say that they are more uncertain than industry jobs at this point, unless you're talking about companies that have recently been taken over by private equity where the new owners intend to gut the place and sell off the parts.
  - excalibur 2y ago
    > unless you're talking about companies that have recently been taken over by private equity where the new owners intend to gut the place and sell off the parts. Off topic, but this is starting to feel like the rule rather than the exception. This practice should not be legal.
    - pelagicAustral 2y ago
      It's all about money, isn't it?
    - scarface_74 2y ago
      I worked for a compaby as the dev lead that was bought by private equity along with other smaller companies to eventually get big enough to go public. I saw the writing on the wall. I knew it didn’t make sense to try to build a development department - what I was originally hired to do. I became more of an “enterprise architect” responsible for managing and coordinating third party consulting companies. I left a year and half later and went to work for a startup. I left there abs when I was looking for a job three years later, the company that acquired the startup offered me a job as a staff architect responsible for integrating all of their acquisitions. As soon as I found out it was PE backed, I noped out. I still inadvertently ended up at a PE backed company that also had a roll up strategy. It was shitty and I only lasted a year before moving on
apwell23 2y ago
how about working for state govts like IL or CA. I have friends in both but they are not worried (yet).
MangoCoffee 2y ago
I don't think it's that different from the private sector. I've been with my current employer for almost 7 years. The company has been sold twice with layoffs. My manager, who hired me years ago, is leaving.

I wouldn't be so sure considering what's happening with federal govt offices in the US right now..

ac-swe 2y ago

state & local are always options

giantg2 2y ago
Government adjacent jobs with NGOs that are not federal government funded might also be options.
- seanw444 2y ago
  A lot of NGOs are government funded, just through multiple layers of indirection, so they can claim they aren't.
pelagicAustral 2y ago
yeah... There is always a niche in government. Plus, I haven't heard of many layoffs affecting software teams in government. Some people are so deeply rooted in their specific concerns that taking them out of a codebase is borderline like cutting the wrong cable on a bomb.
- kaikai 2y ago
  They shut down 18f, laying off the entire team.
scarface_74 2y ago
They also in danger now. Red states are trying to implement mini-DOGEs and all states have to rethink their budgets with the federal government cutting back.

Onawa 2y ago

Yep, I'm a federal contractor working in NIH as a data scientist, and completely agree with the above comment. Before November, I would have said the same thing as the parent comment. After January 20th, everyone who is left is currently looking for backups in case they get laid off. Gov and fed contractor positions used to be the most stable jobs you could get. Now, they are just as uncertain as industry jobs. It's extremely unfortunate.

pelagicAustral 2y ago
Sorry to hear... I hope this situation gets sorted sooner rather than later.
dgfitz 2y ago
Defense contractors most likely do not share the same sentiment.
not2b 2y ago
I'd say that they are more uncertain than industry jobs at this point, unless you're talking about companies that have recently been taken over by private equity where the new owners intend to gut the place and sell off the parts.
- excalibur 2y ago
  > unless you're talking about companies that have recently been taken over by private equity where the new owners intend to gut the place and sell off the parts. Off topic, but this is starting to feel like the rule rather than the exception. This practice should not be legal.
  - pelagicAustral 2y ago
    It's all about money, isn't it?
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    I worked for a compaby as the dev lead that was bought by private equity along with other smaller companies to eventually get big enough to go public. I saw the writing on the wall. I knew it didn’t make sense to try to build a development department - what I was originally hired to do. I became more of an “enterprise architect” responsible for managing and coordinating third party consulting companies. I left a year and half later and went to work for a startup. I left there abs when I was looking for a job three years later, the company that acquired the startup offered me a job as a staff architect responsible for integrating all of their acquisitions. As soon as I found out it was PE backed, I noped out. I still inadvertently ended up at a PE backed company that also had a roll up strategy. It was shitty and I only lasted a year before moving on

apwell23 2y ago

how about working for state govts like IL or CA. I have friends in both but they are not worried (yet).

MangoCoffee 2y ago

I don't think it's that different from the private sector. I've been with my current employer for almost 7 years. The company has been sold twice with layoffs. My manager, who hired me years ago, is leaving.