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Ah, of course: inhuman concrete and strange angles and colors. My theory with all the high art that the “man in the street” sees as weird or childish garbage i
by doitLP 2y ago
Ah, of course: inhuman concrete and strange angles and colors.
My theory with all the high art that the “man in the street” sees as weird or childish garbage is this: if youre a critic or on the inside you’ve seen it all before and dissected it in such detail and tried everything that the only thing that can make you feel anything anymore is electric shocks right to your scrotum while listening to dubstep on the back of a birthing donkey. And so all the movies and art and architecture become just that, and you continue your retreat from the mainstream into your increasingly strange world. Because the fact is, good appealing art has pretty much been discovered but where’s the fun (or profit) in that?
- donkeybeer 2y agoYou are seriously mistaking your personal preference for a universal human trait. Many of these buildings are very homely feeling. You probably might also come from a country where houses are built of wood. Wood isn't a common building material outside Europe and North America. Concrete and brick are most common.
- iandanforth 2y agoRegardless of material, these examples are hideous.
- perching_aix 2y ago> You are seriously mistaking your personal preference for a universal human trait. Many of these buildings are very homely feeling. Which you determined how exactly? Or are your tastes universal? I don't think it's super fruitful to fight opinions with opinions at least.
- donkeybeer 2y agoBy most common factors of homeliness: greenery, shade, cool concrete/stone walls (concrete hatred might even be the minority viewpoint worldwide. Wood is not a common building material outside USA/Canada and Europe). Its not like those large glass walled open plan structures. The interior is secluded and hidden and so on.
- perching_aix 2y agoSo you picked traits you feel are associated with that label and checked how much they apply? ... so still subjectively?
- donkeybeer 2y agoYes as are all artistic opinions. But in fact I can have hard objective data in this, if you look up the normalcy of concrete as a building material worldwide. By this standard wood is weird and concrete is the normal thing. In any case there is no knee jerk aversion to the material. Perhaps its a thing in former communist countries and countries which defined themselves as hating these countries to see concrete as "cold".
- perching_aix 2y ago... which then matters only to the extent that any given characterization makes it so (which is again subjective). It makes the discussion more sophisticated, but nonetheless still just a clashing of personal preferences. I really don't see value in this. If it wasn't treated as a debate but as an exploration, an open ended discussion, then sure. But as it stands, this is just pointless. Literally "I don't like it vs. I do", just more elaborate, with a hint of mutual mislead of the other into thinking it's winnable.
- donkeybeer 2y agoMy comment is much less dismissive and ridiculous than the top comment I am replying to. I didn't say I hate wood or find it impossible people would like wood. If you wanted to look at it from the point of view of a debate vs exploration mine was closer to the exploration end.
- perching_aix 2y agoIt was, true. Oh well, let's see how they and others respond to it all.
- dr-smooth 2y agoToday I learned that in British English, "homely" is a positive trait when referring to a place.