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There is no silicon for useful laptops that isn't US-controlled or China-controlled. On top of that, there is no ISA or reference CPU that isn't US-based. In t

There is no silicon for useful laptops that isn't US-controlled or China-controlled. On top of that, there is no ISA or reference CPU that isn't US-based. In the future, we might have RISC-V, but right now, we don't. You can get laptops with Intel, AMD, ARM or IBM, and that's about it. All of the chips that are fast enough to be useful are US-based (in design and manufacturing instructions, but Asia-based in physical construction). Say you'd be more interested in something that looks/feels like it's not from the US, you are pretty much restricted to stuff that's from ODMs in Asia. But it's the same hardware from the same production facilities, running the same firmware and operating systems.

Havoc 2y ago
>On top of that, there is no ISA or reference CPU that isn't US-based. ARM HQ is in Cambridge & owned by Japan (Softbank group)
- oneplane 2y ago
  I suppose that's true. My mind was already on the likes of Qualcomm, Apple, Ampere and Broadcom but the base ISA and some of the reference designs used in public are indeed pure ARM (the company). Ideally there'd be a player like Fujitsu (also an ARM licensee), they can do an entire laptop where only the manufacturing and software is not in-house (they don't have the capacity to do that AFAIK). If you then slap some coreboot (or U-Boot) and linux on it, you'd be pretty close to a much less US-attached laptop.
  - robin_reala 2y ago
    You can get pure(ish)-China laptops if you’re willing to go that far to get away from the US. Hauwei have a range of laptops using HiSense ARM cores: https://qingyun.huawei.com/ https://qingyun.huawei.com/
    - oneplane 2y ago
      Didn't Samsung try to do the same? That'd be a Korean option if amelius has that in scope. Unless they are using Snapdragon for those of course.