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I'm in the exact same boat (Canadian + same requirements). If you settle on something I would love to hear your experiences. While looking around I did find a C

I'm in the exact same boat (Canadian + same requirements). If you settle on something I would love to hear your experiences. While looking around I did find a Canadian provider: https://www.fullhost.com/cloud-paas/ https://www.fullhost.com/cloud-paas/ I'm intrigued but I'm also a little skeptical. They seem to do too much.

davidee 2y ago
Will do! I hadn't heard of FullHost, and I agree, something seems off with their offerings. The site is so noisy. This really stood out to me in their "DevOps Paas" database section: "An Innovative Approach to Clustered Databases". Like, I totally understand marketing is marketing, but I don't want an innovative approach to foundational technologies. These are things that we know how to work and operate well. Now maybe I'm not their target market, but I want a careful, thoughtful approach. Also, while I'm sure there are incredibly talented, smart people working at these more local hosting / cloud companies, please, please don't try to innovate with bread and butter services... just make it work, day in, day out. That's what I want. It's why we're still on AWS. Anyway, I sent FullHost sales a little note with some questions. Will report back.
davidee 2y ago
Update: no terraform support (sales rep didn’t even know what that was) but claimed API support - which would sadly mean rolling our own provider. Not ideal. They tried to suggest their in house Click-Ops layer (they compared it to Cloudformation) was adequate - which is a bit suspect. They did offer some significant amount of access for exploration for a flat rate of $100. I might just poke around though I really don’t want to spend my time writing an OpenTofu provider.
- adriand 2y ago
  Thanks for the update. Vibe seems off. ;) My thinking on this has shifted a bit, I'm now just thinking I'll set up on Digital Ocean's Toronto data centre. I believe (assume is the right word, I guess) that they have a Canadian subsidiary (I found this: https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.digital_ocean_canada_inc.28c33c20f5b55c838e3f85defa94eb20.html https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.digi...), and if Trump did issue an executive order cutting off Canadian access to American technology, I would hope this would be enough isolation to at least give me enough time to migrate elsewhere without customer impact. Who knows. Although I still haven't ruled out giving OVH a try. My email address is in my profile, happy to keep in touch if you turn up other options!

davidee 2y ago

Will do! I hadn't heard of FullHost, and I agree, something seems off with their offerings. The site is so noisy. This really stood out to me in their "DevOps Paas" database section: "An Innovative Approach to Clustered Databases". Like, I totally understand marketing is marketing, but I don't want an innovative approach to foundational technologies. These are things that we know how to work and operate well. Now maybe I'm not their target market, but I want a careful, thoughtful approach. Also, while I'm sure there are incredibly talented, smart people working at these more local hosting / cloud companies, please, please don't try to innovate with bread and butter services... just make it work, day in, day out. That's what I want. It's why we're still on AWS. Anyway, I sent FullHost sales a little note with some questions. Will report back.

davidee 2y ago

Update: no terraform support (sales rep didn’t even know what that was) but claimed API support - which would sadly mean rolling our own provider. Not ideal. They tried to suggest their in house Click-Ops layer (they compared it to Cloudformation) was adequate - which is a bit suspect. They did offer some significant amount of access for exploration for a flat rate of $100. I might just poke around though I really don’t want to spend my time writing an OpenTofu provider.

adriand 2y ago
Thanks for the update. Vibe seems off. ;) My thinking on this has shifted a bit, I'm now just thinking I'll set up on Digital Ocean's Toronto data centre. I believe (assume is the right word, I guess) that they have a Canadian subsidiary (I found this: https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.digital_ocean_canada_inc.28c33c20f5b55c838e3f85defa94eb20.html https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.digi...), and if Trump did issue an executive order cutting off Canadian access to American technology, I would hope this would be enough isolation to at least give me enough time to migrate elsewhere without customer impact. Who knows. Although I still haven't ruled out giving OVH a try. My email address is in my profile, happy to keep in touch if you turn up other options!