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Allegedly, the Cybertruck is the first car Musk was involved in designing. All the previous Tesla models were variants of the designs produced before Musk bough

Allegedly, the Cybertruck is the first car Musk was involved in designing. All the previous Tesla models were variants of the designs produced before Musk bought the company.

FrojoS 2y ago
Wrong. The first Tesla, the Roadster, was an existing design by Lotus [1]. All Tesla designs since, including the Cybertruck, have been led by Franz von Holzhausen. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster_(first_generation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster_(first_generati... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Holzhausen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Holzhausen
- milesrout 2y ago
  It was not an existing design by Lotus at all. It used the Lotus chassis but that is one small part of the overall vehicle.
- immibis 2y ago
  This neither confirms nor denies that the Cybertruck was the first one Musk designed.
sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago
Later than it was supposed to be. More expensive than it was supposed to be. Not as much range as it was supposed to have. Not the exoskeleton design it was said to be. Not bulletproof like it was claimed to be. The whole thing is a pile of engineering WTF. The enormous wiper that leaves a huge amount of the windshield untouched, when it manages to work at all. The wheel support structures from other Tesla models being reused in a much heavier vehicle, leading to all those photos we've seen of Cybertrucks with snapped off wheels. The headlight "shelf" that collects snow and blocks the headlights. The air suspension system that takes forever to adjust when it's not failing altogether. The glue, oh the glue, so much glue. It's just so uniquely bad!
- juujian 2y ago
  It's a novelty car for rich people. Now the question is how big is that market.
  - igetspam 2y ago
    Shrinking by the minute
    - lukan 2y ago
      The number of spoiled rich people?
- porphyra 2y ago
  The "headlights shelf" is because the protruding bumper is designed to be lower, to make the vehicle compatible with other cars during a crash, in order to protect the safety of other cars. Anyway, the Cybertruck is a uniquely fun to drive and nimble truck thanks to its four wheel steering and steer by wire. The F-150 Lightning feels like a clumsy relic in comparison. It's just an innovative vehicle with a bunch of early teething problems. The amount of hate it's getting is way overblown.
  - ciconia 2y ago
    It's an antisocial car. It basically screams FU.
  - r2_pilot 2y ago
    >>The "headlights shelf" is because the protruding bumper is designed to be lower, to make the vehicle compatible with other cars during a crash, in order to protect the safety of other cars. Okay but this is still a poorly considered design element, especially when a company is willing to sacrifice so much else to its peculiar aesthetics. I had no idea what the headlights looked like before this comment, but now I can't unsee them and I'm thankful my truck doesn't share those design "features".
  - sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago
ta1243 2y ago
Simpsons already did it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGczDHTDpo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGczDHTDpo
- jwx48 2y ago
  I think of this every single time I see or read about a cybertruck.
oskarkk 2y ago
Musk didn't "buy" Tesla, he was its first investor, at a time when the company had only 3 employees, and he was chairman of the board since then (and he's its biggest shareholder to this day). Anyway, he was always involved in the design decisions (IIRC Model X falcon doors were his idea).

Allegedly, the Cybertruck is the first car Musk was involved in designing. All the previous Tesla models were variants of the designs produced before Musk bought the company.

FrojoS 2y ago

Wrong. The first Tesla, the Roadster, was an existing design by Lotus [1]. All Tesla designs since, including the Cybertruck, have been led by Franz von Holzhausen. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster_(first_generation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster_(first_generati... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Holzhausen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_von_Holzhausen

milesrout 2y ago
It was not an existing design by Lotus at all. It used the Lotus chassis but that is one small part of the overall vehicle.
immibis 2y ago
This neither confirms nor denies that the Cybertruck was the first one Musk designed.

sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago

Later than it was supposed to be. More expensive than it was supposed to be. Not as much range as it was supposed to have. Not the exoskeleton design it was said to be. Not bulletproof like it was claimed to be. The whole thing is a pile of engineering WTF. The enormous wiper that leaves a huge amount of the windshield untouched, when it manages to work at all. The wheel support structures from other Tesla models being reused in a much heavier vehicle, leading to all those photos we've seen of Cybertrucks with snapped off wheels. The headlight "shelf" that collects snow and blocks the headlights. The air suspension system that takes forever to adjust when it's not failing altogether. The glue, oh the glue, so much glue. It's just so uniquely bad!

juujian 2y ago
It's a novelty car for rich people. Now the question is how big is that market.
- igetspam 2y ago
  Shrinking by the minute
  - lukan 2y ago
    The number of spoiled rich people?
porphyra 2y ago
The "headlights shelf" is because the protruding bumper is designed to be lower, to make the vehicle compatible with other cars during a crash, in order to protect the safety of other cars. Anyway, the Cybertruck is a uniquely fun to drive and nimble truck thanks to its four wheel steering and steer by wire. The F-150 Lightning feels like a clumsy relic in comparison. It's just an innovative vehicle with a bunch of early teething problems. The amount of hate it's getting is way overblown.
- ciconia 2y ago
  It's an antisocial car. It basically screams FU.
- r2_pilot 2y ago
  >>The "headlights shelf" is because the protruding bumper is designed to be lower, to make the vehicle compatible with other cars during a crash, in order to protect the safety of other cars. Okay but this is still a poorly considered design element, especially when a company is willing to sacrifice so much else to its peculiar aesthetics. I had no idea what the headlights looked like before this comment, but now I can't unsee them and I'm thankful my truck doesn't share those design "features".
- sjsdaiuasgdia 2y ago

ta1243 2y ago

Simpsons already did it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGczDHTDpo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGczDHTDpo

jwx48 2y ago
I think of this every single time I see or read about a cybertruck.

oskarkk 2y ago

Musk didn't "buy" Tesla, he was its first investor, at a time when the company had only 3 employees, and he was chairman of the board since then (and he's its biggest shareholder to this day). Anyway, he was always involved in the design decisions (IIRC Model X falcon doors were his idea).