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Fortnite, Fall Guys, Delta (Emulator for Nintendo DS, Gameboy, N64, NES and much more). Torrent clients. QEMU. YouTube Apps with Sponsorblock and Adblock.

wqaatwt 2y ago
> QEMU Isn’t it still crippled and unusable for any non ancient platform unless you have a jailbreak? Seems like you still need to side load AltStore Classic to get the full version.
- terinjokes 2y ago
  You need to be tethered to enable the JIT, without it UTM is very slow. Even TinyCoreLinux was extremely slow.
  - wqaatwt 2y ago
    Yeah, so the EU App Store don’t really solve that since there is still not way(?) to get JIT legitimately.
    - SSLy 2y ago
      that's problem with APPL's attitude, not the "EU App Store".
      - madeofpalk 2y ago
        The problem has always been Apple's attitude, which the DMA sort to fix. Whether Apple is in compliance or not is up for debate.
      - wqaatwt 2y ago
        It’s a problem with EU’s regulations if they allow such outcome (i.e. Apple being allowed to artificially cripple third party apps). Obviously AltStore did the best they could.. > APPL's attitude Everybody knew from the beginning that they’ll do the minimum they can get away with so blaming Apple is somewhat pointless.
        larfus 2y ago
        I'm genuinely flabbergasted by this thread. > ... Everybody knew that Apple would be uncongenial, borderline malicious ... > Therefore its pointless to blame Apple The entire fault is on Apple. The EU that is notoriously depicted as overly bureaucratic and slow-moving managed to make the largest consumer walled garden to relax its gates and give some form of authority to people who own the damn device. Remember, no form of official sideloading existed before the DMA.
        AceJohnny2 2y ago
        > Remember, no form of official sideloading existed before the DMA. MDM has long existed. In fact that was Apple's counterpoint to alternative alt-stores. Certainly it didn't allow you to bypass any execution restrictions any further than the regular app store. Random link: https://it-training.apple.com/tutorials/support/sup530/ https://it-training.apple.com/tutorials/support/sup530/
        larfus 2y ago
        I'm taking consumer focused solutions into account. No single individual could reasonably set up MDM to gain some sort of freedom
tanjtanjtanj 2y ago
Delta is on the official iOS App Store for what it’s worth. There are also a couple apps that support watching YouTube with sponsorblock and Adblock available too.
- larfus 2y ago
  Delta seems to be allowed (at least partially) because of the DMA and the EU. I'd also love to hear your suggestions on those couple of apps. Last time i checked, proper apps either charge whatever they want to because of their monopolistic position(+ the cost of an Apple Developer Program to a hobbyist) , and free apps unclear if they even solve the problem are designed to harvest and sell almost everything you have. Orion is a very rare exception in both of these cases but they weren't able to make uBO work
  - DownrightNifty 2y ago
    > Delta seems to be allowed (at least partially) because of the DMA and the EU. Yeah, that's an important point. Delta on the App Store is most likely a direct result of the Digital Markets Act: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/5/24122341/apple-app-store-game-emulators-super-apps https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/5/24122341/apple-app-store-g...
alabastervlog 2y ago
Delta is in the ordinary App Store, too.
- larfus 2y ago
  That is because Apple relaxed its App Store guidelines after the DMA to disincentive sideloading.

wqaatwt 2y ago

> QEMU Isn’t it still crippled and unusable for any non ancient platform unless you have a jailbreak? Seems like you still need to side load AltStore Classic to get the full version.

terinjokes 2y ago
You need to be tethered to enable the JIT, without it UTM is very slow. Even TinyCoreLinux was extremely slow.
- wqaatwt 2y ago
  Yeah, so the EU App Store don’t really solve that since there is still not way(?) to get JIT legitimately.
  - SSLy 2y ago
    that's problem with APPL's attitude, not the "EU App Store".
    - madeofpalk 2y ago
      The problem has always been Apple's attitude, which the DMA sort to fix. Whether Apple is in compliance or not is up for debate.
    - wqaatwt 2y ago
      It’s a problem with EU’s regulations if they allow such outcome (i.e. Apple being allowed to artificially cripple third party apps). Obviously AltStore did the best they could.. > APPL's attitude Everybody knew from the beginning that they’ll do the minimum they can get away with so blaming Apple is somewhat pointless.
      - larfus 2y ago
        I'm genuinely flabbergasted by this thread. > ... Everybody knew that Apple would be uncongenial, borderline malicious ... > Therefore its pointless to blame Apple The entire fault is on Apple. The EU that is notoriously depicted as overly bureaucratic and slow-moving managed to make the largest consumer walled garden to relax its gates and give some form of authority to people who own the damn device. Remember, no form of official sideloading existed before the DMA.
        AceJohnny2 2y ago
        > Remember, no form of official sideloading existed before the DMA. MDM has long existed. In fact that was Apple's counterpoint to alternative alt-stores. Certainly it didn't allow you to bypass any execution restrictions any further than the regular app store. Random link: https://it-training.apple.com/tutorials/support/sup530/ https://it-training.apple.com/tutorials/support/sup530/
        larfus 2y ago
        I'm taking consumer focused solutions into account. No single individual could reasonably set up MDM to gain some sort of freedom

tanjtanjtanj 2y ago

Delta is on the official iOS App Store for what it’s worth. There are also a couple apps that support watching YouTube with sponsorblock and Adblock available too.

larfus 2y ago
Delta seems to be allowed (at least partially) because of the DMA and the EU. I'd also love to hear your suggestions on those couple of apps. Last time i checked, proper apps either charge whatever they want to because of their monopolistic position(+ the cost of an Apple Developer Program to a hobbyist) , and free apps unclear if they even solve the problem are designed to harvest and sell almost everything you have. Orion is a very rare exception in both of these cases but they weren't able to make uBO work
- DownrightNifty 2y ago
  > Delta seems to be allowed (at least partially) because of the DMA and the EU. Yeah, that's an important point. Delta on the App Store is most likely a direct result of the Digital Markets Act: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/5/24122341/apple-app-store-game-emulators-super-apps https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/5/24122341/apple-app-store-g...

alabastervlog 2y ago

Delta is in the ordinary App Store, too.

larfus 2y ago
That is because Apple relaxed its App Store guidelines after the DMA to disincentive sideloading.